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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And the NYT brought receipts.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/01/20/us/dei-woke-claremont-institute.html

Why do conservatives hate America and everything it stands for? Why are they so racist?[/quote]

The next time you get on an airplane do you want the pilot, crew and air traffic controller to have been hired on merit/qualifications or DEI? I’m guessing you’d go with merit/qualifications. Does that make you racist?[/quote]

You commit a logical fallacy here. It is not an either/or choice.[/quote]

https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/faa-slammed-over-targeted-disabilities-hiring-goal-people-will-die-due-to-dei-federal-aviation-administration-diversity-equity-inclusion-policy-guidance-elon-musk-sarah-palin

FAA is seeking such people.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-airlines-training-program-aviate-academy-pilot-shortage-graduating-class-women-minorities/

[b]United is picking 80% minotirty females.[/b][/quote]

They are not hiring based on race. They have a training program with an inaugural class that is 80% "minorities" OR women. Since 50%+ of the population are women and almost half are non-White, it doesn't seem hard to get to 80% women or "minorities".[/quote]

Again the subtle stupidity of the DEI concept

Why would you assume that the pipeline of people interested in being a pilot mirrors the sex & racial breakdown of the country as a whole?

Women are about 5% of airline pilots globally

So having a class that’s half women, for example, isn’t just a thumb on the scale - it’s jumping up and down on it

Imagine trying to fill half a firefighter class with women (and thereby leaving out almost half the men who were interested)

Would you expect it to create… better firefighters?

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Damn, you sound really racist and sexist.

It would be great to get more female firefighters because the fire & rescue industry is rife with sexual harassment of women and having more women could potentially change that culture. That being said, it's understandable that fewer women are interested in fire and rescue given the physical demands of the job. Airline pilots do not face the same physical demands so I don't see why they would have trouble recruiting women to a free training program that leads to a career. Sorry you're upset only 20% of the class was White men, but that just sounds really entitled that they should get the free training program and other people shouldn't.[/quote]

Is the point of firefighting to have a nice accepting culture, or to put out fires and save people?

Re: flying, if you think it's just a normal desk job that women and men should be equally interested in, I guess you don't know much about it, or the paths people take to it

I guess it's better to just allow people we've decided we like to jump the line without the experience

But keep up the ad hominems, clear sign of a strong argument [/quote]

Yes, I think workplaces with toxic cultures can't be as effective as they could be.

I'm not sure what the "line" is that you think these individuals are jumping but as the article points out there is a massive pilot shortage so it makes perfect sense that they are seeking candidates from populations that haven't had these jobs in the past. I'm not sure why you think I think being a pilot is like a "desk job". Are you under the impression women can only do desk jobs? If so I have news for you about nurses, teachers, child care workers and the physical demands of those jobs.[/quote]

Hmmm.... who says a majority-male environment is "toxic" FOR MEN?

Re: "normal desk job," what I am alluding to is the thousands of hours pilots spend solo & far away from home, which is a great fit for checklist-loving autists - and people like that tend to be male.

If United was recruiting student pilots based on other interests & abilities that might dovetail with the job, it would make sense. Surely the pipeline should be increased. But driving it by demographics instead suggests a lack of seriousness that, from a safety perspective, is rightly concerning to a lot of people.[/quote]

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