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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's amazing how nasty people are toward boys.  These are our sons and your future SIL's.[/quote]

Yes, it's depressing.  [/quote]

The responses here aren't nasty to boys.  They are trying to get people like you to get your heads out of your butts.

Boys are fine.  They still run the world.  Women are still getting the poop end of the stick.

You two really need to get a frickin grip.[/quote]

I don’t think older men being in leadership proves that today’s boys are ok. There’s like a 4 to 5, even 6 decade gap there. I think a PP was spot on that the bell curve amongst men is weakening with bigger distribution amongst the tails. And this is a problem from girls/women too because it results in fewer marriageable men for the quality women coming out of college. I don’t know the answer, but I think we should at least acknowledge the problem.

I also think there’s a separate but related issue of the motherhood penalty. The gender pay gap has been debunked. Women without kids are doing great in the workforce. It’s moms who make less. And yes this is biological because the physical and mental demands of pregnancy/child rearing and also likely some innate risk aversion once you have children. We can’t change biology so we have to (or should) somehow decide we’re not ok sacrificing mothers for the societal benefit of carrying on our species (unless you are truly anti natalist, I would hope most people agree society benefits from well raised and cared for children keeping humanity going).

TL; DR

We need to focus on creating a larger swath of emotionally stable, reasonably successful and educated men at the middle (not just focusing on extreme male success at the top as proof boys are ok) and we need to recognize/adjust for the effects of child bearing on women.[/quote]

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