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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it's fine.  "Middle class striver" values are hard work, the importance of education and knowledge, and earning a good living.   Those are the types of values I want to inculcate in my children.[/quote]

Interesting. I really dislike/reject the pervasive idea that if my teen isn't decked out head to toe in Lululemon with regular hair highlights and a $50/week Starbucks habit that there is some wrong/lacking in our family. IYKYK. [/quote]

Yes, I despise this culture and it seems to be ubiquitous in all the DMV affluent areas. So shallow and boring, producing so many vapid and uber-spoiled kids.[/quote]

Yes.  We moved from DC a few yrs ago to a mid sized middle class town.  My teen has zero interest in lululemon, Starbucks, Stanley cups and high end skincare and makeup. It just isn’t on her radar at all, or that of her friends’ and schoolmates from what I gather.[/quote]

I always hear about Lululemon online. Lululemon is really not all that expensive. I have boys though who don’t care about brands.

I grew up in an affluent neighborhood. I was very confident and always got a lot of attention from the guys. A cute dress doesn’t have to be brand name. Your makeup also doesn’t have to be expensive.

Even as a middle aged woman, I see woman who spend a lot of money on makeup and that doesn’t mean she is prettier.

Teach your girls to be confident.

My friend was looking for gifts for her teen nieces and nephews. I said I read online about Stanley cups and Lululemon. She just bought it and didn’t consider it an expensive gift. Same with uggs or crocs. I hardly think these items are expensive.[/quote]

Really? You don’t think $100 leggings, $120 hoodie, $45 water bottle and $100 slippers, $50 eye shadow palette  is totally normal for a 12 yr old?[/quote]

Not PP but i also don't find this to be a big deal. All these items taken together (<$500) are less expensive than a good phone not to mention travel and activities. it's really a drop on the bucket.

That said, I also agree with PP that boys don't care about any of that crap. They don't care about your leggings or the brand of your makeup. If you are are hot you can dress at Walmart. Teach your girls that they don't need to follow the herd - certainly not all of the time.[/quote]

I am the pp who didn’t think Lululemon is that expensive. My boys play tennis that costs me $100 per hour. We spend a lot on travel and experiences.

I have a lot of lululemon clothing. J don’t consider this expensive clothing for myself. I did have Guess, Calvin Klein and eventually seven and diesel  jeans and various Abercrombie clothes when I was a teen. I think those guess jeans cost $50 back in the 80s and 90s. My seven jeans cost $100 in the early 2000s. $100 pants in 2023 doesn’t seem crazy to me with the inflation we have been experiencing.

I had a job when I was a teen and earned $100 per week. I would buy clothing, makeup and use my earning to hang out with my friends. When I was in college, I earned thousands in internships. I earned 100k at my first real job.[/quote]

You are exactly the kind of parent we are talking about, and who we’d rather not live near. [/quote]

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