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I think scores should be required, period.

The "doesn't test well" is a myth. My son with special needs didn't test well until we got him diagnosed, taught him organizational skills and half-medicated (he couldn't take the optimal dose of meds due to medical concerns, but a little was better than nothing).

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The fact that you have a “special needs” child and the process of getting him help didn’t teach you a damn dose of empathy or understanding for similar or even worse off kids for whom the “solution” isn’t so neat and tidy says a lot about you. The universe tried to teach you a lesson to make you a better person and you failed. [/quote]

No. You are wrong. The only way we can keep making progress in this world is to push the high-achieving people to the top of the chain, to give them opportunities to change the world.

I am humble enough to recognize that this may not be my family. My kids will find their place in the world, I don't worry about that. But as a species, we need to stay competitive, figure out a way to mitigate climate change, manage massive financial upheavals, travel to other planets, cure diseases, harness AI, etc. If you deliberately prevent the talented from rising, by eliminating the easiest, simplest and most efficient filters at our disposal, then you are NOT helping our species survive.

This isn't about my kid or your kid. It's about a more long-term approach to specie evolution.
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You know who is innovative? Creative people. Who may or may not test well. Lets have a test that demonstrates innovation. The SAT/ACT is not it. [/quote]

I’m all for restoring the ACT/SAT and adding a creativity measure that’s been validated. Sure, why not?

Certainly better than TO, which will just go down as the defective “everyone gets a trophy” era.[/quote]

+1. TO is the equivalent to “everyone gets a trophy”.[/quote]

This doesn’t make logical sense, it’s just hysteria. My kid is at a T25 after reporting a 34. On CC, there were kids who were rejected that same year with a 35, and 36. Of course, now people will cry “yield!” One metric isn’t the end all be all, otherwise every single school would be filled kids scoring 35 and 36 and 1580-1600.

My other kid applied TO, [b]so are you saying that he doesn’t deserve a trophy?[/b] It’s probably one your kid doesn’t even want. It’s greed and desperation on your part to hoard all these invisible trophies.

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If you don't finish the race, qualify--you don't get the trophy.  For top 25 schools there used to be a minimum cutoff for standardized testing.  Your kids 34 is very much aligned with top scores. 34-36 is a range for top 25.

Look - I came in at 3:41 and missed the 3:40 to qualify for the Boston Marathon that year.  That's life.  I didn't apply to schools that my scores weren't in range with even though my GPA was...[/quote]

The problem with this logic is the statistics are skewed. Your race time was measured against all participants, not just the fastest racers who decided to submit their time. TO schools are driving up their median range of test scores because only the top 1-2% feel safe enough to report. [/quote]

No, dummy. I’m talking about why it should be test REQUIRED.  Everyone doesn’t get a trophy.  Everyone races; only those that make the score/time qualify.  Capiche?[/quote]

Your posts are a good case for why interviews should be prioritized. AOs could probably eliminate a lot of applicants based on a quick 2 minute personality assessment.  :lol: [/quote]

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