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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not going to read 11 pages of posts on this, but find it bizarre that anyone would think this Israel situation is somehow a big win for Republicans.[/quote]

The protesting in DC right now is not helping Biden or the Democrats.[/quote]

They are protesting Biden you twit[/quote]

NP. Right. But the issue is that swing state moderates and independents had already been on the fence about Biden but his pro-Israel stance had been making them lean back towards the Democrats. In other words one of the issues in this upcoming election was that moderates and independents hate Trump, but actively also hate the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. So, for swing state moderates, many are deciding whether the election is actually Trump versus Biden or MAGA vs progressive left. Or Trump v progressive left or Biden v. MAGA. In other words, for critical voters in swing states, a strong point in Biden’s favor is his ability to repudiate and restrain the progressive left.

These marches, with their violence and graffiti and antisemitism, show that Biden can’t restrain the progressive left. Plus they show the progressive left aligned with values that repel moderate voters: support for terrorism, attempts to overrun the White House, etc.

The marches will draw important voters to Republicans, make no mistake. For moderates who were horrified by J6, there are now images of masked far leftists trying to get into the White House while carrying the flag of a terrorist-supporting foreign country. For moderates worried about terrorism, there are now images and videos that look like thousands of people protesting in favor of terrorism on American streets.

And yes of course I know that most protestors just want peace blah blah blah. Do you think effective campaign ads show any of that? Do you think the intent matters whatsoever in campaign politics? There are now going to be pictures and videos of masked far leftists trying to scale the White House fence with flags of a foreign country flooding moderate voters from now until the next presidential election. Essentially the far left has handed the Republicans a neat way of removing J6 as a campaign tool for Democrats and that’s a powerful victory for Republicans. [/quote]

I expect Israel to be completely irrelevant to the voting decisions of the vast majority of voters.  It's completely bizarre you think that Bide's "pro-Israel stance" was making swing state voters lean towards him. [/quote]

Agree.  Foreign policy is rarely much of an issue for voters.  And we’re not sending U.S. troops.

I expect the 50,000 voters in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia who will decide the next election are paying little attention to “events in the Middle East”.  [/quote]

I think the PP who keeps saying that moderates are going to see leftists angry with Biden and decide that means Biden isn't pro-Israel enough is completely wrong. But there's a pretty large bloc of Arab voters in Michigan and I'm not sure how that is going to affect the election. Will enough moderates and indepedents - at least the ones who care about Israel - care about Biden's strong position here to counterbalance the Arab voters we're going to lose? I don't know - I hope so.
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I would urge Arab voters to consider the alternative. Biden is the only viable Democratic candidate a year out from the election. Not voting or voting for a third party effectively gives Trump a win on a silver platter. And yes of course, sucks that this is our system but it is our system.

I don’t see a Trump presidency being good for anyone who isn’t white, Christian, and fascist. Or anyone who wants a leader who would seek to find diplomatic means to avert crises.[/quote]

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