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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We don’t debate ideas anymore, we debate loyalties.  [/quote]
Whew. This says it all. Whoever you are, you’ve nailed it.[/quote]
+100000[/quote]

People are tribal.  As more an Americans identify less with a religious identity, they replace their tribalism with a political identity.  [/quote]

And what happens when religious identity and positions are intertwined with politicians and policy? ie the Evangelicals [/quote]

What about it? The point is the amount of people with strong religious identity is declining. Secular religion is the new wave.[/quote]

Secular religion? Like worshipping a politician or political party? [/quote]

Not necessarily, though it could be. Fervent, bordering on religiously zealous, adherence to a cause, belief or person.

To take it out of a political context, the increase in celebrity stan culture is an example. BTS Army, Swifties, Sussex Squad, BeyHive etc.[/quote]

Yup.

Trump is a religion for his hardcore MAGA followers. They speak about him as if he's the messiah and a prophet. It's very similar to fervent religious adherents. [/quote]

Religion?  Then we have DEI, Climate Change and Woke.  You can't even see it, can you?[/quote]

These examples are two sides of the same coin. Same thing, but one side blindly idolizes Trump, the other blindly follows DEI/social justice/equity nonsense. Blind belief in these competing ideologies gives them a sense of belonging, direction, and purpose that would have previously been filled by religion.[/quote]

You wouldn't think the equity stuff was nonsense if you were one of the people on the short end of the stick.[/quote]

You wouldn't think of MAGA as a cult if you were one of the people trying to save America from ruin.[/quote]

Ah, but here is the rub. MAGA are the ones who staged a coup. After that, you can complain about the left and their policies until the cows come home. No one who actually loves their country tries to overturn an election in a violent manner, particularly now, in hindsight, when we see the planners and plotters admitting it was all a lie. Shocking that you somehow still think it was a fake election and that the coup plotters are still patriots.[/quote]

Yawn. You are trying to make this some competition and are missing the point. Still stuck of the belief rather than the behavior

No one who truly believes in justice, equity and inclusion would engage in massive destruction and looting of small businesses (many of which were owned by minorities). We could do this all day. You're just so caught in your bubble, you can't see past your own "righteousness".

Do you take pamphlets with you when you proslytize? [/quote]

And you are missing the point. The people protesting Floyd's death were peaceful. There is evidence, based on charges, that the deaths and rioting that took place were instigated by right wingers. You are so caught up in your bubble, you didn't know that. I posted links already in this thread and you have chosen to ignore them.[/quote]
The [b]RWNJ[/b] you’re going back and forth with is too far gone (or too well paid). All the proof in the world can’t convince someone whose sense of self is bound up in his victimhood like his is.[/quote]

Use of this term is a telltale sign that you are probably in a bubble. So far gone, indeed. [/quote]

This particular bubble is called "sanity".  You haven't been a part of this bubble for a long time.  I pity you.[/quote]

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