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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sorry, but it doesn’t matter. It matters to the  the overbearing helicopter parent that wear their kid’s college brand like a designer handbag and that we will be directionless and aimless when DC leaves the nest. But for your kid, their employer will care that they went to school but not where.  The exception, of course, is on both extremes. If they go to a top 5-7 school, great, they get bonus points (except for the many employers that specifically don’t want someone with those credentials because they tend to believe that they are entitled to an accelerated journey).  On the other extreme, if they went to an online school or a super esoteric school, there better be a good reason.

Other than that, schools #7-150 or so are completely interchangeable in the real world. [/quote]

I'm sorry but I just don't agree that this applies to everyone. The assumption that wealth & eduction correlates with Middle class white culture is so off-putting. I'm asian and a child of immigrants- I've seen way too many successful lives destroyed by events that would never be life 'destroyers' for their white peers b/c of a lack of exposure to ideas/UMC ways of doing things and confidence.  The difference that going to a top ten law school would make for my kid even though their parents are lawyers will be much much bigger than it is for your kids and there are plenty of immigrants, brown and black people and even first generation college grad white posters here and we know better than you how social mobility works b/c its something we have experienced for ourselves, not just read about in the Atlantic and VOX.  I've seen first hand the difference in girls who go to George mason vs. even UVA/George Washington and what they've gone on to do with their lives. Exposure to a wider set of possibilities and the self concept that you are one of the ppl who should be applying to post docs at Magdalen college and MS at LSE and opening businesses with friends you met at NYU Beijing are vastly different than a fed contractor driving to target and their home in Burke with no USAID/FSO posting in sight day after miserable day.  Many ppl on here have benefited from their superior merit and work ethic and want make sure that their kids move that one rung up to having even more choices and possibilities when their grandparents struggled and sacrificed.  That is what ppl move here for, if I wanted to keep treading water, my father should've stayed home and not left his family and everyone he held dear.  [/quote]

You are so wrong. People don’t define themselves at age 18, and where you go to undergrad doesn’t dictate who you are. Trust me, Harvard doesn’t have a lock on sophistication, international kids are everywhere, study abroad or any number of experiences can be life changing. Kid should go where they feel optimistic, good about what they are doing and excited for the future. [b]This may very well not be some hyper-competitive environment where people are valued by who they or their parents are or what they are entitled to.[/b] [/quote]

No. You're totally wrong.

There have been several immigrant/POC posters on this thread saying that going to an Ivy changed our lives. There are studies out there showing that going to an elite college MATTERS for first-gen/low-income/URM kids.

You denying this is a great example of your white privilege.

And BTW, writing off HYPSM as "some hyper-competitive environment where people are valued by who they or their parents are or what they are entitled to" is clearly just you coping as a mediocre state school grad. That wasn't my experience at all at Stanford. [/quote]

Those who claim the college they went to changed their lives ignore the very high likelihood that another, even less-selective college would have changed their life for the positive the same amount or even more. It's a common misconception that the college matters a lot, when the reality is that each individual's success is by far influenced by their own efforts more than the school they attend.

The study I assume you're referencing is probably Kruger and Dale, which says there is a very small advantage financially to first-gen and low-income students. The URMs they refer to are Black and Hispanic students.

I do agree with you that there's no need to denigrate colleges that are obviously fabulous, although they are sometimes not the best match for those who covet them the most. There's also no need to get nasty about state schools, which can also be amazing places. It's quite possible one of those 'mediocre' state schools would have set you on the same path that it sounds like you're enjoying.[/quote]

Dale and Krueger is not the study they are referring…that study supports your view.

There was a more recent study released with the last couple of months that seems to support the “elite school” theory.  Part of that study tracked kids that were admitted to a top school off the waitlist vs those that did not.  Supposedly the admitted kids had better outcomes compared to the kids that did not come off the waitlist.[/quote]

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