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But that would mean her child is not “gifted”. What a tragedy! Instead her child [b]is[/b] [b][u]gifted[/u][/b], and the others are cheating.[/quote]
AAP is not a gifted program.
When a child actively prepares for tests, including COGAT, NNAT, SOL, etc. it demonstrates their appreciation for and interest in learning. In this regard, they are likely to adapt well to the AAP program. While it is not a very good program for truly gifted children, it does provide an excellent opportunity for students who are motivated to delve deeper into their studies compared to their peers in general education. [/quote]

The commonwealth of Virginia requires a gifted program for schools. AAP is the gifted program for FCPS.  And it's a good program for my "actually" gifted kid as well as my "only 120s IQ" kid.

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AAP is NOT a gifted program, but fcps fulfills the gifted mandate through the aap program.

Truly gifted children aren’t being served. [/quote]

Fwiw, the design of the center school system is to both provide a curriculum (the implementation varies by school and teacher) [i]and[/i] to provide a cohort of a large number of gifted kids as well as some bright kids (which also varies by school and class).  [b]The cohort is the most valuable and beneficial part of the program for "truly gifted kids[/b]".  [/quote]

That is true, but the highly gifted kids, let’s say 140-145+ are underserved. And that’s what it is. The point is that the way the program is designed as of now, mildly gifted kids belong there. They are there to expand the program.

If aap as it is now disappears, then the highly gifted will have to have an exclusive program to fulfill the mandate. That will sit ill with soooo many people.

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What would the AAP as is now be replaced with? A program for 145+ kids, would have about 15 kids per grade over the entire district. It would make absolutely no sense for many reasons: commuting 30+ miles for elementary students, funding, etc. why would the public school system set up an alternate school for a very tiny sliver of students? By lowering the bar, more students get in and there’s more public support for the program.[/quote]

Having a cutoff of 145+ doesn't make sense, since you would need to evaluate each domain separately.  A kid could have a FSIQ of 145+ with only around a 130 in the VCI and FRI indices.  This kid would most likely be served fine in the AAP classrooms that we have right now.  Another kid could have a 135 IQ, but with a 155+ (ceiling score when my kid took it) in either VCI or FRI.  That kid cannot have their needs met in AAP in their area of strength.  There are many more than 15 kids per grade who have either a VCI or a FRI index of 145+.  [/quote]

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