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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So who blew up Nordstream now?  Some Ukrainian guys but not with zelensky authoriAtion?[/quote]

I don’t think we will ever know. There is “low confidence” intelligence that it is operatives aligned with Ukraine, likely with former special operations training.

Frankly it sounds like someone paid ex-SEALS to do the dirty work. There are supposedly 40+ boats that passed through the area with their homing beacons purposely disabled.

I’ve always thought it was done by oligarchs disgruntled with Putin. Alternatively it could have been done by Ukrainian oligarchs/nationalists without Zalensky’s approval. Two groups with the same objective.

Either way, the move was pretty critical in forcing Europe closer to Ukraine. And Scholz is dirty dirty dirty, so the Ukrainians knew he couldn’t be trusted, so they forced his hand.

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One obvious theory would look at who benefits from Europe's alternative purchasing sources.  Clearly that guy had a major interest in cutting out the competitors, wouldn't you say so?[/quote]

Well then that wouldn’t be Ukraine, as they have no gas to sell. Instead, you’re looking at Saudis, or German coal mining, or US natural gas suppliers, or North Sea drillers. Or, just maybe, the Scandinavians or Baltics sabotaged it themselves since they share borders with Russia.

Lots of nation states with a security interest in seeing Europe move closer to Ukraine and imposing hardships on the German people. [/quote]

Except Ukraine has a lot of natural gas reserves in the Black Sea. Preventing Ukraine from exploiting those resources is one of the reasons why Russia invaded.  [/quote]

Sure, but they are not in a position to sell it in the short or even medium term. There's no current [i]profit motive[/i] for Ukraine to bomb it.

Anyways, the pipeline is a piece of Russian infrastructure in international waters. No reason for Ukraine to avoid bombing it when it would be materially funding the war for Russia. From a direct war perspective, it's absolutely within Ukraine's interest for the pipeline to be non operational. Similarly, there are at least a dozen countries with self-security interest to see Germany and Russia wedged apart and moved closer Europe (for example - Poland or Finland....both are capable of bombing it and its in their interest for it to be non-operational right now).[/quote]

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