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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know it was the right thing to do but I am sad the talks are nowhere near and more people will die and suffer [/quote] What's there to talk about? Russia needs to leave Ukraine, end of story.[/quote] This approach will bring many more lost lives, is all I am saying [/quote] If you let your abuser continue to beat you, you will eventually be killed. Better to at least try and fight, is all I’m saying. [/quote] This analogy can be correct or not depending on how much you associate a state and its citizens. Take an average person in eastern ukraine and ask them whether they would rather be alive under Russians or dead under Ukrainians. [/quote] Wow. What a loser attitude you have. You think people should roll over when an aggressor comes storming in to steal territory? Why is that the only choice you offer? How about they’d prefer to be alive with the Russian invaders gone back to their own country, paying reparations for the damage they inflicted. [/quote] I just don’t think all people are 100% behind their government, and many would choose to either escape the war altogether or to change governments as long as they can keep their lives and possessions. [/quote] No one in Donbas gives two shits if they are ruled by Ukraine or by Russia. Ukraine hasn't exactly been nice to them.[/quote] Ehh... the "not being nice to them" really only started in 2014 when Russia sent FSB operatives, mercenaries and others in to take over Donbas to stage a fake "separatist" movement in order to try and destabilize Ukraine after their corrupt criminal puppet Yanukovich got thrown out.[/quote] Really? So you think being forced to switch to a language you barely know is, I dunno, awesome? Donbas never got on with the Maidan program. I know you want to paint a picture that this was a rosy place until big bad Russia got involved but the fact of the matter is east Ukraine always looked toward Russia and specifically did not appreciate the policy of forced Ukrainization. It honestly would not have killed Kiev to keep two languages going. [/quote] BS. Again, that "forced Ukrainization" stuff really wasn't even happening until the Russian invasion. And even Donbas voted heavily to separate from Russia during the 1990s breakup of the USSR and well after. That's a fact. And one could turn the same arguments right around at you - It's also a fact that the Russian occupiers are throwing away and burning Ukrainian school books in all of the territories they are occupying rather than bothering to try and keep two languages going. Along with forcibly deporting Ukrainian children to Russia for them to be russified rather than knowing their own culture and language.[/quote] I’ll trust actual people from Donbas and Luhansk I know over you, a random internets stranger.[/quote] I’ll trust actual [i]russian propagandists[/i] I know over you, a random internets stranger. Fixed it for you, russian stooge.[/quote] Before you accuse others of being a Russian stooge, you should fix your American grammar. Oops.[/quote] Nope. The lower case r was an [img]intentional[/img] slight, russian stooge. It's because your country is not worthy of capitalization. Also, we don't say "a random internets stranger" in America.[/quote] And yet I'm sure you look for, er, "diversity" in your child's ES and god knows where else. Admit it. You're really only comfortable around proper Americans. [/quote] Eh? What are you on about? Did you mix up your scripts again, Sergei?[/quote] If anyone here is scripted, it's more likely you with your ridiculous compendia of Russian-language news, badly translated, and clearly posted in an attempt to look smart. Rest easy, my dear. Most names you throw around to impress are unknown to anyone but TASS workers. I'd call it pearls before swine but they are more like coal lumps.[/quote] I'm not the same person you're arguing with (you mixed up posts again). I'm the one posting what you call the "ridiculous compendia". Here's another one for you: Putin delivered a notably short address to a crowd of tens of thousands. “I've just been hearing from the highest military command that at this very moment there is an ongoing fight on our historical lands, for our people. It is led by similarly brave fighters to the ones standing beside us here right now,” he said, flanked by Russian soldiers. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/02/22/putin-says-russia-fighting-for-historical-lands-at-pro-war-rally-a80306 According to local journalists, on Christmas Day 2015, the priest was granted a personal meeting with President Vladimir Putin, who was visiting town. “The destruction of the U.S.S.R. was a great deceit visited upon the Russians,” the priest continued. “There was no law by which the republics were dissolved. Everything that was built after 1990 is a lie. All this will soon come to light, and you will know it.” https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/03/23/at-a-young-russian-soldiers-funeral-denunciations-of-ukrainian-nazis-soviet-dissolution-a77038 He said the city is so overwhelmed that it is building a new crematorium, which he predicted would be kept busy for the next two to three years. “Crematoriums are growing exponentially in Russia,” Yevsikov told The Insider, which estimates that the 33 crematoriums currently operating in Russia are unable to meet surging demand. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/27/putin-blasts-neo-nazis-in-ukraine-on-holocaust-remembrance-day-a80065 The point is that Putin really believes he can stitch the USSR back together again, not seeming to realize that armed conquest requires both capitulation and subjugation; neither of which is 'a thing' in Ukraine. This doubt is even spreading to ordinary Chinese, even on formerly pro-Russian blogs. Russia is “crying without tears” and is tightly embracing its nuclear weapons because they are losing the war. “He’s becoming as comical as Trump now,” another commenter said about Putin. “Who you support and who you oppose all depends on who our enemy is. The United States is now our enemy. So do we support Russia or Ukraine?” https://www.whatsonweibo.com/invincible-russia-putins-speech-discussed-on-chinese-social-media/ Since I wouldn't want anyone to believe I'm attempting to "look smart" by stringing together unrelated news articles, then perhaps you can explain this next one? He said the city is so overwhelmed that it is building a new crematorium, which he predicted would be kept busy for the next two to three years. “Crematoriums are growing exponentially in Russia,” Yevsikov told The Insider, which estimates that the 33 crematoriums currently operating in Russia are unable to meet surging demand. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/27/putin-blasts-neo-nazis-in-ukraine-on-holocaust-remembrance-day-a80065 “Near the local crematorium, there is a constant queue of up to 10 military vehicles. The occupiers use these trucks to bring dead Russian soldiers and mercenaries. Cremations are performed around the clock. Cremation services are not provided to civilians,” "the Russian army had set up a mobile crematorium in occupied Tokmak, Zaporizhzhia Oblast, to conceal its own losses." https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/02/15/crematorium-in-occupied-crimea-burns-killed-russian-soldiers-round-the-clock-general-staff/ "Russian forces have used at least five mobile crematoriums at the front line to burn bodies." "According to Russia’s legislation, the family of every dead soldier receives payments. But if the body is missing – no payouts will be provided." https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/01/28/russia-hides-scale-of-its-losses-in-ukraine/?__cf_chl_rt_tk=YBY9owsa_JiTafDsQ1aY6iqfiH5I36Rzy2Eh1_pZPVE-1676458827-0-gaNycGzNEOU How long do you think the Russian Government can keep this up? Forever? Ten years? One year? Less than that? You need to wake up and stop supporting the current Russian Government.[/quote]
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