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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am Russian but have lived in the US for over a decade 
I still have family there so I visit regularly and have been going even after the invasion (it’s become much more expensive and cumbersome fyi)
My guess is that Russia will be Iran on steroids. A geriatric regime, extremely conservative and on the brink of dictatorship (but not to the extent of North Korea). The economy will be militarized (the so called mobilization economy), people won’t starve and will be able to move freely (finances permitting). However there will be no innovation and not much vibrancy if you know what I mean. However there is a rich legacy of kitchen cultural life from the soviet times, as well as post soviet cultural renaissance, so it not going to be all doom and gloom.
Yes there will be brain drain but also there will be a sufficient number of technically talented people who are believers and can keep the austere military economy afloat. And there is a certain taste for overcoming difficulties in the “genes” of the population. 
As for the war, it will be a slow churn, one step forward and two steps back. I feel bad for the annexed regions and their population. They will suffer no matter the outcome. 
Some parts of Russia might be under shelling too (some already are but I mean cities and not just Belgorod). 
Basically, there will be life but no one without ties to Russia will want to live a life like that. [/quote]

Interesting! Does your family have access to information or are they also blinded by the Russian propaganda machine? Do you enlighten them?
Also, do you think that the "overcoming difficulties" gene is still strong, especially after Western exposure and luxuries? Even with the youth? I'd think it'd be waning. [/quote]

Family: it depends. None of them is totally blinded by the propaganda but they all think that Ukraine went too far in trying to be with the West and rejecting Russia, the Russian language, etc.
They don’t phrase it like that but that’s the essence. 
None of them can face the fact that the war, the power struggle was a huge mistake. They think there is “something” to it. Even those who think Putin and his cronies are criminals etc
I tried to share my POV but while they are all respectful they clearly think I have been brainwashed 
The “overcoming difficulties” gene is still there in a lot of people. One of the things that surprised me in connection with this war is how few people have actually been exposed to Western values and luxury beyond Burger King and such. And Chinese phones are preferred over Apple by and large[/quote]

They don't understand and accept that Ukraine moving to the West and rejecting Russia is a direct result of Russia's continual meddling and corrupting of Ukraine, their invasion in 2014?  
They don't understand that it is Russia's own belligerent behavior that is also pushing Finland and Sweden into NATO?[/quote]
Why did Russia invade in 2014?[/quote]

If you mean Crimea, it's because Russia saw it as historically a part of Russia (which it was until 1954).[/quote]

"Part of Russia"  - conquered by Russia in the late 1700s but still largely just rural Tatars sitting on a peninsula that was militarily strategic and fought over many times.  Stalin had the native Tatars deported in the 1940s, after which it was resettled by some ethnic Russians.  It was then transferred to Ukraine in 1954.  Russians have never really had deep roots there other than on paper, as a military port, and as a beach vacation.[/quote]

I would say 3 centuries is pretty deep [/quote]

Not really, hardly any actually Russians even lived there.  Most ethnic Russians living there today are maybe only 1 or 2 generations deep at best.[/quote]

So whose is it? Tatar? [/quote]

Legally, Ukraines, ethnically, Tatar.  The best solution would be for Ukraine to regain it and repatriate Tatars who want to return.[/quote]

The Tatars who were interested in returning have already returned many decades ago. [/quote]

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