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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here is an example.  My children’s private school DEI lead has set up to inclusivity groups.  One related to sexual orientation and one to people of color.  Which apparently only included black people.  The lead staff member is black and said someone who looked like another staff member with white skin and brown eyes wouldn’t be able to join.  In the name of inclusivity.  My kids were really upset and said it doesn’t make sense.  They were in 6th grade.  The school also included discussion of gender and sexuality in the context of identity for elementary schools.  And our school is moderate.  [/quote]

OP here. Interesting. Thanks PP and good to know. My kids are so young that we haven't been exposed to any of this yet (so my concerns are just general).[/quote]

I honestly think the people who are initiating this stuff are true believers which is why I think the religion comparison is appropriate.  But if you are at a moderate school with enough balance that people can speak freely, speak out.  Our DEI person absolutely intended the talk about gender fluid as part of the DEI for elementary school kids until the parents got wind and freaked out.  Parents felt that at the age when many kids haven’t even had basic sex ed and when many kids are just hitting puberty, adding this in was too much.  The kids need to understand why their bodies are changing and what to expect and what their organs can do.   That is what parents want for 5th graders.  We didn’t want them literally confused but another layer of information talking about sexuality.  It just isn’t necessary at such a young age.  With the BIPOC club it was just super interesting to hear my kids say that how is it good for our society to start excluding people again based on race.  The kids have learned about MLK and his views and this BIPOC club was directly contrary to that teaching.  You can dress it up as a safe space etc but at bottom it is excluding people based on race.  And that is racist.  I am sure white southerners wanted blacks at the back of the bus so the white at the front could feel safe.  Same same. [/quote]

FYI, gender has nothing to do with sexuality. At all. If you are going to object, at least understand what you are objecting to. Maybe parents who don’t even understand the curriculum aren’t the best people to be second-guessing it.  It’s like the popularly-elected Texas School Board deciding what counts as a scientific or historical fact. Unless you just want generation after generation of equally ignorant people without any intellectual advancement or progress at all, poorly-educated people shouldn’t be designing curriculum. I know you think your mom hunches are the gold standard for determining what’s developmentally appropriate at different ages, but there’s actually science on this question. And gender itself is a matter of scientific inquiry. If I asked you what makes a boy a boy, you might tell me a penis. But what about people who are born with both a or is and a vulva? Is that a boy? Or someone who is born with neither? Boy? Girl? You may say it’s a matter of chromosomes, but you’d be wrong there too. Chromosomes frequently don’t “match” genitalia. I hope you’ll take some time to read and learn about this before opining about what kids should learn at what ages. If any one manages to equip them with more basic biological information than you have demonstrated, they will be doing them a favor regardless of the context. [/quote]

See you are a true believer.  You declare that gender and sexuality are distinct.  I agree.  A man can be gay or straight or bi but he is still biologically a man.  His sexuality is variable.  At most mainstream private schools you won’t get any pushback on that concept at all.  You may get pushback about teaching about sexuality at all (straight or gay) to young children.  But when you start saying that men (gender) can have a vulva, you lost about 80 percent of the population.  You may not agree with my assessment but I hang in some pretty liberal circles and the notion they gender can be chosen is not mainstream and while I want all people to feel like they can be and do what they want, I don’t want my 9 year old told that your belief is fact.  It isn’t fact.  It’s your belief— no different than man was created on the 7th day.[/quote]

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