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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All these folks can keep being on their moral high whatever, and I'm gonna keep taking my shot. I'll

worrry about gains when the that tome comes. But for now, the food noise is gone, and I'm maintaining the weight loss. But it's still killing me that no one  makes these same arguments about pharmaceuticals for other ailments.

What is the deal?  Why are some of you so concerned about how fat people lose or not lose weight?

I feel glorious when I see number on the scale drop lower and lower and I don't have to $hitz but live my life like normal people. No constant food  cravings, no bad foods, I can eat whatever I want within moderation. No food is bad. I love it.

So all these naysayers, keep talking,  while us folks taking these meds reap the benefits and hopefully great health.[/quote]

It’s pretty funny. They thought they could shame us out of being fat, and now they think they can shame us out of taking the medicine that makes us lose weight. 
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The truth is that they don’t like that we can become thin and be like them without misery. They were okay with weight loss surgery (although they still called it the easy way out). It leaves scars and requires forever sacrifice of a proper functioning stomach. It changes your eating permanently. Those terms were acceptable for them, an adequate punishment for our former obesity. Ozempic and similar are too painless and we don’t deserve to lose weight painlessly.[/b] [/quote]

NP. The bolded is so insightful, and a very accurate summation of what’s going on with some of the angry posters lashing out at Ozempic users in this thread. Really thoughtfully observed. It is also interesting because I suspect a good number of those posters probably take antidepressants or some sort of pharmacological intervention for mood and mental health (or dear God, they really clearly need it).

I’m not obese, but I could not be more delighted that there is a medical treatment for obesity that is reasonably well-understood and seems to have years of data behind it. It’s about time. [/quote]

Oh come on, now.  I am a PP who posted that I am not obese/overweight but I am glad these drugs exist and I am truly happy that people who need to lose weight for their health are able to do it with these new treatments when other efforts have not worked for them.

However, I still think we need to encourage people to eat healthy and move more - it's basic common sense!  Maybe some believe there is a fine line between fat shaming and nutrition advice, but we cannot give up trying.  The message cannot become, "don't bother trying lifestyle changes, all the forces are against you, drugs are the only thing that work."  That would be incredibly damaging!

The drugs seem to be a miracle for those who really need them but they should be a last resort and should not be used to compensate for a bad diet, or to treat vanity pounds like celebs are doing.[/quote]

Why should they be a last resort? [/quote]

Drugs and surgery are the last resort for many, many kinds of illnesses and conditions!  High blood pressure, high cholesterol, type 2 diabetes, are all examples where you can try lifestyle changes first, and sometimes they work.  When I have been injured, I've been prescribed physical therapy before going to surgery as a last resort.  Even mental health issues, there is a long list of things you can try before drugs (meditation, sleep hygiene, reducing stress).  Not saying no one should end up needing drugs/surgery, but it's not the first thing you go for when there are less invasive options.[/quote]

When my blood pressure crept high, I was immediately prescribed blood pressure medicine. I personally chose not to take it and instead tried diet and exercise modifications first but I certainly wouldn’t say that it’s considered a last resort in any sense of the word. [/quote]

Obviously it depends on the severity, other medical factors, and the individual doctor's approach.

I had high-ish cholesterol and was told by my doctor to change my diet to raise HDL and lower LDL.  I did it.  One year later, my numbers were drastically better (and I have kept the healthier diet).[/quote]

Love that journey for you. If permanent weight loss were achievable through diet and exercise then I would be all for making that the first line treatment. But unfortunately it’s not. [/quote]

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