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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So many people in here huffing and puffing that they don’t care about school rank when they hire.

Yet we know that grads from better schools make more money than grads from lower-tier schools both when they start and 20+ years after graduation. Thus, it is unquestionably clear that writ large, employers DO care about school rank, and do think that grads of top schools make better employees.

Money talks, bullsht stays on DCUM forums.[/quote]

Hon, the reason those kids make more money is because they all know and hire each other, and then each other's kids. It's nothing to do with making 'better employees.' The term you're looking for is 'nepotism.' You wouldn't know the term, of course; they called it 'merit' at your 'better school,' to make you and the other gentlemen's C students feel better about your poor sweet little mediocre selves. [/quote]

Hon, if you think every single Ivy grad is personally known to thousands of employers and HR departments across the land, you are truly deluded. That's not how it works. What is happening is that the HR departments and hiring managers get countless applications from countless kids they don't even know, and they are putting the elite school grads at the top of the stack to get interviewed under the assumption (whether you like it or not) that these are smart kids and good students. And then those kids interview well so they get hired.

After that, an elite diploma might be enough to get you in the door but if you don't perform, you won't get promoted. The fact that the grads of top schools do better 20 years after graduating than kids of lesser schools shows that the elite grads are, indeed, performing.

But keep coping that your kid who went to some crappy state school has only been held back due to nepotism, lol. [/quote]

NP. Have you ever actively worked in an elite environment? I think it’s pretty clear you haven’t. [/quote]

Give us an example of the elite environments you're talking about.[/quote]

Big Four
Big Law
FAANG
IB

It is transparently clear to me you’ve never stepped foot in one of those environments. [/quote]

The only thing transparently clear is that you're a troll.[/quote]

Actually, she is right on point in all four areas.  [/quote]

Here's the leadership team from PWC. Take a look at where they studied and then tell me going to an elite college matters to the Big Four.

https://www.pwc.com/us/en/about-us/leadership.html

I'm confident the same is true for all of the other areas listed.[/quote]

Accounting is one of the more egalitarian professional fields. It's not like IB where you have to be Bradford, Chatford, Schmuckford, or Tripp.[/quote]

Becoming some “big four” cpa is the quintessential middle class worker bee career. Barely a notch above nursing and public school teacher, which are barely a notch above cop and firefighter. All fine careers and they provide a fine quality of life. But very few students at elite colleges are gunning for such tracks. You don’t need to work your butt off in 9th-12th and jump through all the hoops to become a cpa, nurse, teacher or cop. You can go to any community college and directional state school to do any of those things.[/quote]

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