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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Prattle on all you want, but the top 10 will always be some combination of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, Columbia, U Chicago, MIT, U Penn, Northwestern, and Duke. Vast majority of people in this country simply don’t even know of Williams and Amherst, though they are great schools. This is also not helped by the fact that in most parts of the world, a “college” is a lesser institution to a “university” (for example in the UK, where the designation of “university” is closely guarded by a government body).[/quote] Talk about a reification of rankings. You do realize that several of the schools you listed are relatively new to the top 10, don’t you? [/quote] Besides, Northwestern does not belong in the top 10. You just have to ED the school to get in. There is a difference. The other ivy ED schools do not accept 80% of their class from EDs like Northwestern and Chicago. It's more like 20% or below. For Northwestern and UChicago, you do not have to be a top student, you just have to ED.[/quote] This is just blatantly incorrect. About half of Northwestern's incoming classes are accepted through ED, which is in line with several other "top 10" schools, such as Duke and Penn, and Ivies such as Brown. No idea where you got the "80%" figure. Keep in mind that for a D1 school like Northwestern, the ED rate is inflated due to athletic admits.[/quote] This is mostly correct: most top schools are closer to 50%, although Northwestern is closer to 60%. Johns Hopkins is well over 60%. Chicago is notorious for this, but it hides the numbers by not publishing a common data set (Columbia is the only other top school that won’t publish a CDS; that should tell you something). I would assume that Chicago’s percentage is unusually high — maybe even 70%. As for Division 1, you should be making the opposite point: Division 1 typically means that there is a lower proportion of student athletes than, say, a top Division 3 school — not more.[/quote]
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