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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When I was 22, I taught in a school like this, and I thought similarly to the OP.

20 years later, I recognize how much of that was subconscious bias and lack of empathy. It was easier to blame the parents for not trying hard enough than to understand all the ways the system is stacked against people from their very first breath. I also accepted the good school/bad school paradigm . . . I was teaching at a "bad school," and I wanted to get to a "good school." With my UMC upbringing and my elite private college, I was just not understanding or accepting of people who had different life experiences.

Anyway, this advice is terrible. Research shows that taking kids out of hypersegregated schools and putting them in integrated schools brings their scores ways up, while the privileged students' scores are not affected. It is much more effective than throwing more money at under-resourced schools. I mean, think about it, how many teachers bring attitudes like OP's to teaching in these schools? Slightly higher salaries or lower class sizes are not going to make as much of an impact. We need to divorce school funding from property taxes and start paying teachers like the professionals they are, and we need a cultural shift to value schooling and integrated communities as a common good, not as a commodity to hoard.

OP, honestly, that your response to seeing the struggles of CHILDREN is to suggest that they should be further isolated, cast off, and forgotten about . . . I'm sure you are tired and burnt out, but please reconsider your "solution" to the horrible conditions we allow innocent children to attend school in. We should be ashamed. The answer is not turning a blind eye.[/quote]

clueless liberal

Do you have kids yourself, guessing no.  All of these liberal thoughts are clearly debunked by reality

There are plenty of people who want to be teachers salaries aren't the issue
Smart kids are hurt when they are put in normal classroom environments because the teacher can't advance as fast and most of the time is spent with the slower ones

You should have trusted yourself at 22, now you are brainwashed 42 year old idiot using language that didn't even exist 5 years ago

There is one area we agree in, until families and communities actually care about education more money won't help.[/quote]

Yes, I have children, and they attend integrated Title 1 schools. They are high achieving and excelling in school despite your assertion that their teachers must be unable to "advance as fast."

I'm happy to discuss actual research, but when you throw around ad hominem attacks instead of good faith arguments, it just screams, "I was triggered by facts I didn't want to face so I threw around some school yard insults to make myself feel better."[/quote]

they would be doing even better if they went to a normal school...  do you have any common sense at all????

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Doing better . . . at what? To what end?

I used to feel anxiety about keeping up with the Joneses and securing my kids the "best" and all that, but then I read the research (see: Rucker Johnson) and met some people actually sending their kids to the schools I was told were "bad" and poof, there went that baseless anxiety.

I don't envy you your anxiety, or your belief that you need to hoard and exclude. It hurts you just as much as it hurts our kids. If you can only feel good about yourself when you fancy yourself better than others, well that's not much, is it?

A "normal" school, FFS . . . [/quote]

I don’t like the word “normal” but you’re delusional if you can’t see the difference between a school with a 40% suspension rate and 75% of the students completely failing state proficiency tests, and a school that is actually functioning. It’s not “hoarding” and “excluding” to avoid that school. Pollyannishly insisting that there is no difference is basically saying you don’t care that the system is grievously failing those kids. Maybe you don’t quite get just HOW BAD the schools are. [/quote]

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