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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here’s more from that same section of the Catechism, if that doesn’t convince you: 1024 This perfect life with the Most Holy Trinity - this communion of life and love with the Trinity, with the Virgin Mary, the angels and all the blessed - is called "heaven." Heaven is the ultimate end and fulfillment of the deepest human longings, the state of supreme, definitive happiness. 1025 To live in heaven is "to be with Christ." The elect live "in Christ," 600 but they retain, or rather find, their true identity, their own name. 601 For life is to be with Christ; where Christ is, there is life, there is the kingdom. 602 1026 By his death and Resurrection, Jesus Christ has "opened" heaven to us. The life of the blessed consists in the full and perfect possession of the fruits of the redemption accomplished by Christ. He makes partners in his heavenly glorification those who have believed in him and remained faithful to his will. Heaven is the blessed community of all who are perfectly incorporated into Christ. In other words, heaven is being with Jesus and God. That’s what it is defined as. There is no heaven that is separate from that. So if you do not accept Jesus, you cannot access heaven, because heaven does not exist outside of communion with Jesus and God. It’s one and the same.[/quote] Ok. I will agree with that. It doesn’t say anything about being baptized or being “saved” though. And it doesn’t say that you have to accept Jesus during your lifetime. There are plenty of Catholic theologians who believe that Hell is empty because once we meet God, we will choose Him. [/quote] Look at the first section of the Catechism that I posted. Here it is again: By virtue of our apostolic authority, we define the following: According to the general disposition of God, the souls of all the saints . . . and [b]other faithful who died after receiving Christ's holy Baptism [/b] (provided they were not in need of purification when they died, . . . or, if they then did need or will need some purification, when they have been purified after death, . . .) already before they take up their bodies again and before the general judgment - and this since the Ascension of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ into heaven - have been, are and will be in heaven, in the heavenly Kingdom and celestial paradise with Christ, joined to the company of the holy angels. Since the Passion and death of our Lord Jesus Christ, these souls have seen and do see the divine essence with an intuitive vision, and even face to face, without the mediation of any creature. 599 I also have no idea why you think this isn’t about being saved. The Catholic Church believes that accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior leads to salvation (aka being saved). Why are you fighting this so hard? [/quote]
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