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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm an acitve duty Marine and I'll tell you it is a big problem in the military. Our physical fitness requirements are hard physically and demand a high ratio of muscle to fat, but it is practically impossible to have that and weigh within our standards. Most of the Marines I know who are women ride the top of their weight limit and even barely making weight, they look like supermodels compared to the women we see in the civilian world. The Marine Corps has the toughest standards and is least likely to change them, but across the board, services are going to have to look at what they can do to recruit and retain a military that is fit with the Americans we have available. [/quote]

Interesting. I just looked up the weight charts for the Marine Corps and, assuming they’re correct, for a woman of my height I would have to be between 110 and 146 lbs. I’m well within that, and am not at all underweight (I’m 122 lbs). It’s sad that it’s difficult to find people who can fit that requirement.

https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/marine-corps-weight-rules.html

Assuming these physical fitness requirements are accurate, they honestly seem pretty reasonable: https://www.military.com/military-fitness/marine-corps-fitness-requirements/usmc-physical-fitness-test

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DP.. muscle weighs more than fat, so they shouldn't just look at weight alone, but overall fitness.[/quote]

If you look at the links, they do. There are some standard fitness requirements in there — 10 minute mile, certain number of push ups, certain number of crunches, etc.[/quote]

Right, so my understanding from the marine PP is that it is hard for women to weigh below the top of the standard and be strong enough to perform the fitness requirements. Isn’t that what they were saying? Tracks for me. I’ve always been right in the middle of a “healthy” weight and cant do a single real push up.[/quote]

Have you ever actually tried, though? Like it's your job? It's fine to say that you meet the weight standard, work at a desk all day, and can't do the pushups. For me, the pull-ups would be the real challenge.

But, if it were my actual job to meet all those standards? No problem.[/quote]

No I haven’t but I’m saying I could imagine that if I did train to do it (you’re right, the pull-ups would be way harder) I would need to put on significantly more muscle mass that could potentially push me into the “overweight” standard. Maybe not. I just thought that’s what the marine PP was saying but maybe I totally misinterpreted the point. [/quote]

For women, the muscle mass you can put on is about 30% of body weight.  It would be extremely hard to do push-ups and pull-ups lifting your body weight once you are in overweight trending to obese. Female bodybuilders on average weigh about 150 for 5’7” and they have most muscle.[/quote]

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