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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The contempt the school has for others is what is most striking.[/quote] Yup. It backfired spectacularly.[/quote] +100 I truly hope this man and his family receive every dime they are owed. What unbelievable hubris on the part of Oberlin.[/quote] Agreed.[/quote] +2[/quote] Lorain County is an incredibly racist part of the state of Ohio. I'm not surprised by the verdict, at all, given the players. Oberlin may or may not have deserved to lose the case, and I express no opinion on that here, but even if they didn't they would have lost in Lorain County.[/quote] Evidence that Lorain County is incredibly racist? [/quote] I didn't make the post you're referring to. But I have family there. Lots of family. And it is, in fact, very racist. [/quote] Can confirm. Confederate flags in Ohio aren't about heritage. [/quote] In other words, you’ve heard people like the Gibsons are racist. That’s called hearsay, and courts don’t allow it as evidence for a reason. https://chroniclet.com/news/297502/court-rejects-appeals-by-oberlin-college-gibsons-bakery-from-2019-civil-trial/ The Gibsons called multiple witnesses to testify that they had never experienced racism while working at or patronizing the store, while Oberlin College employees who tried to testify they had heard reports or rumors of racial profiling or discrimination had their testimony rejected as hearsay. The college "did not call witnesses to testify about their personal experiences with the Gibsons. Instead, the defendants sought to have Oberlin administrators testify about 'what Oberlin heard' about the Gibsons from community members," Carr wrote. "Oberlin’s excluded evidence was hearsay, while the Gibsons' evidence on this issue was not." ****** The Gibsons presented evidence that when the college learned "that the student allegations of assault and racial profiling might be false," it started doing business with the bakery again but refused to correct the statements in the flyer or the Student Senate resolution. "The Gibsons also presented evidence that they had been continually taunted and harassed for many months, that their business and property had been vandalized, and that Grandpa Gibson had broken his back after an encounter with someone he believed was trying to harass him or break into his apartment," Carr wrote, adding that the appeals court "cannot conclude that reasonable minds could only conclude that this conduct failed to rise to the level of extreme and outrageous."[/quote]
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