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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The current system of relying on MAP Scores and Grades is less equitable than relying SOLELY on a CogAT test. (Preferably not the 30-question screener that focuses only on analogies, but the full test).  Other districts (Broward FL) have found "diamonds in the rough" that way.  From there, however, you don't focus only on 99%ile kids from privileged backgrounds, so there is still room for controversy. (Because even the best intentioned parents focus advocacy so keenly on the results for their own child, or children just like them.)

Both MAP scores and grades evaluate how kids are doing in a system that may be stacked against them in various ways.  Even the most privileged gifted kid can have negative grade results for any number of reasons, some directly related to their giftedness.

Having more seats would help.  But if the pro-magnet crowd takes the stance that whatever happens in a home school is never going to be good enough, the effort to get more seats gets derailed quickly.[/quote]

I'm the PP who is frustrated that MCPS gave up on the system they pledged to implement four years ago, and this is exactly right. MAP scores reward out-of-school learning, as they are a test of exposure, not aptitude. Grades are subjective, and gifted kids can end up with a single B (or more) for a variety of reasons that should not disqualify them from the magnets.

However, a purely cogat-based approach has a substantial downside, which I'll call the NYC Trap, in which the magnets become the purview of the highly prepped rather than the gifted. That's what NYC saw with it's "gifted" elementary schools. Kids were prepping for a test administered at 3 or 4, creating a whole industry of test prep for tiny kids. [/quote]

You can't prep for the cogat. Why do you keep brining up prepping? Most kids that prepped did not get in anywhere. The kids that prepped and got in probably would have gotten in anyway. Why are you so obsessed with assigning blame to a certain group of people? Why do people on this board think it's okay to bash Asian Americans but not other minorities and pretend that you are these gracious people who really want to help poor minorities. I have news for you. In NYC Asian Americans are the poor minorities. The kids going to magnets who are Asian are almost all FARMS.[/quote]

You *can* prep for CogAT or intelligence tests, but not as effectively as for exposure-biased tests like MAP.  They should (and did) have a broad, multi-factored set of criteria and guardrail algorithms to balance against this.  They didn't last year and don't this year.  It wasn't perfect -- any system has flaws -- but it would be better.

You're injecting the implication that the PP is anti-Asian instead of anti-test-prep when related to accessing a public service.  Quite inappropriate to paint them that way.[/quote]

That person is anti-Asian. You sound like you're pretty racist too.[/quote]

Again with the unsubstantive response and unsubstantiated aspersions.  Leave the conversation if you can't provide information or a point of view of value to others [/quote]

If you think that someone calling out people who continue to make thinly veiled racist comments is not a point of view of value you should be ashamed of yourself. I'm sometimes mortified to live in this area with people like you are probably parents I interact with.[/quote]

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