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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The public school boosters are crazy. UCB, UCLA, Michigan, UVA are no match for HYPSM. The public's have a hard time competing with the like of Emory, Vandy and the like. [/quote] For undergrad, true. But don’t generalize this fact and pretend that HYPSM are the best universities overall. Yale and Princeton are no match for Berkeley’s grad schools.[/quote] Exactly, so why is there is argument validating the Forbes ranking when we know UCB undergrad is not even better than Georgetown and their giant rats, let alone the best school in the country. [/quote] Did you not read the previous posts? It's about "added value" of an education to a low-income student or one on FA. The HYPSM do just fine on the list with their generous aid. I don't necessarily agree with that UCB is "not even better" than Georgetown. This is most likely a East Coast misconception. It's still perceived quite well on the West Coast and much more well known worldwide. Just like East Coasters don't see Stanford in the same level of the prestige as HYP until the early 2000s, and still is to this day. [/quote] Did you read my previous post? Value add is not fair when the best students in the country go to the private schools. HYP students were going to be successful regardless, you can't say the same about UCB and the other public school students. And no UCBs best ranking is US news at 22. WSJ puts them at 36 and it's a ranking that solely focuses on outputs, and doesn't give any advantages to schools with low income students and instate tuition for woke points like Forbes. I personally think 22 is an elite ranking but UCB is only top 25 on us news not both us news and wsj. [/quote] You do realize that the vast majority of Americans can't afford a 50-60k per year tuition right? Forbes just provides a different perspective to how colleges should be ranked. If you don't like the wokeness of it, don't subscribe to it then. It's not for your kind of jet-setting audience. [/quote]
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