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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“ There's a reason some would consider a school like UVa more prestigious than Berkeley or Michigan despite being far worse academically...One was founded by a founding father and was regularly attended by the wealthy Southern elites, while the latter two are massive, technical-focused universities”

Too funny. Berkeley and Michigan excel in practically every discipline they offer.  UVA can only dream about being so strong in all areas. As for being founded by Jefferson, nobody outside of Virginia cares.  [/quote]

Yeah, I don't buy the original argument and the history level.  Michigan is actually older than UVA.  Berkeley is younger but has been a top notch university for a long time.  Stanford is younger even than Berkeley.  Are we going to say it lacks prestige?  It likely is preferred by cross-admits over all other schools other than Harvard, and even there it is a close call.[/quote]

History alone doesn't cut it.  William & Mary has more history than all schools other than Harvard, but exited the Civil War broke and burned down by the Union occupiers.  The Southern schools that rose to prominence, Duke, Rice, and Vanderbilt, did so because of the later munificence of industrialists.   UVA was a school attended by some southern gentry, but it was far from a serious research university during the time when many of the great national universities like MIT, Harvard, Michigan, and Berkeley were establishing and advancing themselves.  The most prominent component was the law school.  The South was pretty much a backwater during this time.  I'd say even Duke didn't emerge into what it has become until well after the renaming gift from James B. Duke (tobacco money).   [/quote]

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