Reply to DCUM Class warfare

Forum Index » Political Discussion

Reply to "DCUM Class warfare"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

If you go to school, work hard, work in a needed capacity you will be paid well. You have something of value and that can be transferred. The unemployment rate for people with Bachelor's degrees is only 4% and with Masters is 2%. You keep talking about all these things and it seems to slip your mind that people already pay taxes. the top earners are paying over 80% of all the taxes in America. So if you want them to pay MORE because we don't have a "decent society" then please tell me what this socalled Nirvana would entail. What the FUCK will Americans get for more taxes? More parks? Parks in space? You think more taxes will cause companies to move manufacturing back to America? Will more taxes cause the teacher's unions to actually allow underperforming teachers to be fired? Will more money make DC schools better? They already spend the most in the nation and have the worst results. Will more money mean that the government will be more efficient and not so redundant? What the hell will more taxes do? Because in your eyes we have NO army, No parks, No roads. I thought the $800b stimulus was supposed to be shovel ready to shore up all of that.

No one called you communist, so pipe the heck down. 
[/quote]

Finally an argument from the libertarian side I can understand.  If what you really want to say is "I'd give you the money, but I honestly don't think you need it, and if I gave it to you, you'd waste it", I can perfectly understand that.  Saying "class warfare" and "I got mine, you get your own yourself" was just confusing me to death.[/quote]

Well the argument that comes from the President is "pay your fair share" which is an emotional argument because "fair share" is not a quantifiable measure. So if the argument is that we need more taxes and here is why, then let's look at everything dollar for dollar and see what we're getting. The president isn't willing to do that. Even Republicans need to put defense spending on the table. The problem isn't revenue it's spending. Yet that is always left out and we just blame people who go out and make a good living. If we weren't spending money on bombers that were 20th centuries or brought our troops back from Japan, or had effective education spending people would be open to giving more away. But we are vastly inefficient and everyone knows taht. To then just say "give us more"  and not "gives us more, please" but "gives us more or you're a selfish and an asshole that lacks compassion" will always get pushback. PErsonally I will sit home this election (I live in the District so that doesn't affect his math) but I've been disappointed by the tone of this man. He came to unite but continues to divide our country. He's carrying on in the Bush tradition. America has big problems and huge structural changes here we have a president that doesn't want to lead us but to put people down.[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics