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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I invest plenty in my career.

When I’m on contract. You are a CHUMP if you work contract hours for free for months at a time. [/quote]

Well that settles the debate whether teachers are professionals or just laborers in a large education-industrial complex.[/quote]

My one opinion didn’t settle anything but go on. I get you think you’ll make me feel like a bad teacher for not working 40 hour unpaid  work weeks off contract but it won’t happen. [/quote]

And it shouldn’t. I’m not a teacher, but I’m not working if I’m not compensated. I’m a professional, and part of that means that I expect to be compensated for the job I do and the tenants that come with that job. I’m a nurse, and I’m paid for trainings that I attend. If not, I wouldn’t attend them because I don’t work for FREE. Stop equating free labor with professionalism. You can be good at your job and understand that you should be compensated for it at the same time. [/quote]

Lawyer here. I bill hours. Does that make me unprofessional? If I craft an email to or for a client, they get billed for my time and services. I don’t work out of the goodness of my heart. I work to get paid and put food on the table. [/quote]

Do you bill a client for any law review articles you read?  How about for reading up on what the bar association is changing wrt to new applicants?  How about for mentoring an intern?  Or any of the thousands of things you do stay current in your profession?[/quote]

Again, most of these things are within the scope of my job and covered by my salary. If I wasn’t getting a paycheck for two months, I wouldn’t be doing these things because I wouldn’t be compensated for them. I stay up to date on my job because I’m paid and compensated to do so. I win a case—I make money. Also, why am I reading law review if I’m not using it to develop a legal basis for an argument for my client and therefore billing them.

Come on. You are comparing apples and oranges. I make a 12 month salary with bonuses and incentives for good work. Teachers make 10/11 month flat salary with not financial incentive to go above and beyond. Many still do, but that’s a choice they make.

I’m not going to sit here and call them lazy for not going to 40 hour a week trainings during the time they aren’t getting paid for it. I wouldn’t do it any other year. You want them in trainings than advocate year long rolling contracts. [/quote]

I agree with this. And that’s why DL will not be better this year. Teachers haven’t been working all summer to get it right. They will have two weeks only because that’s in their contract. Teachers should have been paid over the summer in order to train to provide a more “robust” DL this year. [/quote]

To be fair, all the ones I know have been loosely planning and thinking of ways to adapt. But we have no solid plans from the schools yet and many don’t even know what we are teaching yet so it’s hard to plan too much. The thing is, the good teachers will find ways to be great at it. The crappy teachers will be crappy but they always are. Nobody who is a good teacher will suddenly just suck or not want to do well by your kids. We do want this to go well for them and will do everything we can to make that happen. [/quote]

I appreciate that, but it’s not enough. Not all teachers will do that (and they don’t have to). So now some will be more prepared than others. All teachers should have been mandated to attend paid training for 2-4 weeks this summer. They could have worked in grade level teams during that time to create new lessons for DL.[/quote]

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