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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We demand the truth from our spouses, our doctors, our employers, and the labels on our food.  But many PPs insist there is no objective truth for morality, right and wrong.  This seems to be more on volitional, rather than intellectual, grounds.  No reasonable alternative for objective truth about right and wrong has been offered yet.  But everyone here wants to say that at least one thing is wrong...killing an innocent child in cold blood, violent rape, cheating on a spouse...why is anything objectively, truly wrong?[/quote]

Again, you haven't got an argument here.  Just that you would really, really like for "truth" (which you haven't defined) to be "objective".  Therefore it is.  No idea what you're talking about when you say "this seems to be more volitional rather than intellectual".

[quote]Augustine said we love the truth when it enlightens us, but hate the truth when it convicts us.  That was my problem.  I chose not to accept the evidence presented to me because I did not want to have to submit to an ultimate, objective authority. That recalcitrance does not do away with the objective truth that an ultimate Authority exists.[/quote]

You've presented no evidence whatsoever.  Except your continued assertions that there's evidence.

More circularity:  a Christian god exists because truth is objective.  Truth is objective because Augustine said so.  Did I mention Augustine was really smart?

You say "truth" is objective.  I don't think you're clear on what "truth" is.

You argue that because truth is objective, there must be an "ultimate Authority".  That doesn't follow:  morality could very well be a biological imperative.  It could be instinctual.  Why isn't that more plausible?

You wave away evidence that morality differs from place to place and culture to culture.  You say that since there's an objective reality, any deviation from that objective reality must be an "error".  But you don't say why that has to be the case.  Should gays be stoned?  Should women be consigned to the home, and prevented from working?  Which is the obejctively moral position?  Who says so?  The "ultimate Authority".

Okay, so I don't believe your "ultimate Authority" exists, you've given no evidence that truth is objective, all you've done is point out that "everyone here wants to say at least one thing is wrong".  That is, individual humans have opinions on what is proper, and improper behavior.  That hardly seems a relevatory point to make.[/quote]

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