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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You think poor people don’t bike??  You really do have your head up your rear.[/quote]

You aren’t helping your pro bike lane position.  At all. [/quote]

PP, if you would have supported bike infrastructure, except somebody said something mean to you on an anonymous Internet message board - well, then you probably weren't much of a supporter of bike infrastructure.

The reality is that poor people bike. Bikes are a cheap way for people to get around without having to depend on buses that may run infrequently, or not show up at all, or not run early enough, or not run late enough, or not go where they're going.

If you're interested, you can look up the Monument Street bike lane controversy in Baltimore.

Or you can read this piece, which is by now almost 15 years old but still relevant: https://www.bicycling.com/news/a20049826/how-low-income-cyclists-go-unnoticed/

Or you can just open your eyes and look around. See that person biking on the sidewalk? See that bike locked to a sign? That's not a middle-aged white male on a $10,000 bike. That's a low-income worker commuting to a job.[/quote]

You don’t get it. I have spent my entire career working with low income and vulnerable populations in their daily lives and you’re so ignorant and out of touch.  You just think it makes sense for poor people to all hike, bye cause you’re so smart and see a few people you assume are low wage workers biking. But do you actually know?  The large majority of low income people do not have access to a bike, or money to buy one, a helmet and gear (like a lock or lints). Sure a handful may be able to get a cheap one at a thrift store if they can get there. But this is not anywhere near the norm.  Many actually don’t even know how to ride a bike, just like many don’t even know how to swim.  They can’t afford regular every day stuff, like diapers, tampons, fresh food, insurance.  Things these bike vigilantes take for granted. It doesn’t even occur to you that someone might need a job that is just too far away to bike, and it’s the only job they can get.  They have zero free time or luxury to worry about bike lanes and road diets, because they’re just trying to keep their head above water.  [/quote]

If you've spent your entire career working with low-income people, then you should know that low-income people bike. If you don't know that, then I don't know what to tell you. Do all low-income people bike everywhere? No, of course not. But low-income people bike. (Typically, without a helmet.) And low-income people get killed while biking. You should know that too.

By the way, if low-income people can't afford a bike, then they sure as heck can't afford a car.[/quote]

All the data I’ve seen shows that low income people bike.  In fact, there’s a higher percentage of low income people who bike than high income people who bike.

https://www.vox.com/2014/7/9/5883823/its-not-just-hipsters-on-bikes-cycling-is-most-popular-for-poor-people

Show me your data that contradicts this.

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Well if low income people get hit biking, let's focus ALX funds on complete street features near those low income areas, not million dollar homes.  [/quote]

How about a slight variation.  Build bike (and pedestrian) infrastructure to benefit low income people most.  Maybe that means building it near their homes, but maybe also connecting their homes to job opportunities, amenities, etc.

To improve the environment, more people of all incomes should have opportunities to bike, not just rich people.[/quote]

How about acknowledging that lots of low income people here are here illegally and don’t deserve one penny of our tax dollars, never mind employment[/quote]

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