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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Morbid curiosity: what precipitated the attack? Did the assailants just walk up and cold cock him? Did they all know each other prior to that evening? [/quote]

He was talking trash, but didn’t physically touch anyone.[/quote]

It did start because Diviney started trash talking a group of random strangers.  Initially the whole thing was going to end peacefully, but as the other group started to walk away, Diviney walked back to them and started trash talking again (I think there were some slurs involved, but I may be remembering that incorrectly).  When the other group reacted and threatened him, he started to back away but apparently kept making smart remarks.  One of the assailants punched him, he hit the ground, and then the other one kicked him in the head.

Nothing justifies the assault at all, but there is a lesson to be learned here on all sides about mixing alcohol, provocation and violence.[/quote]

That's the wrong lesson to be learned here.  The correct lesson is that [b]some people are crazy evil people who will kill you but do not wear warning signs that say that.[/b][/quote]

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NOTHING justifies what these monsters and their monster families did.  NOTHING.[/quote]

I think we should leave the families out of this completely.  They are not the people who killed Ryan Diviney nor should they be painted with the same brush as the two assailants are.  I, for one, don't expect anything from those families.  Of course they support their sons even though their kids did horrific things.  They are going to want the best outcome for their sons possible, whatever that may be.  It is up to society to to try these men for their crimes, though.  You can't blame their parents for the way the justice system has handled this whole nightmare.
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[b]I have known parents who did nothing for their violent sons[/b], who had anger issues from a young age.  I know what they are capable of, and yes, I blame the parents almost as much as the perpetrators. The kinds of kids were never told "no" or given the help or boundaries they need - they were not thrown out of high school when they clearly should have been, for assault and worse. That was the PARENTS choice and the PARENTS job, and the PARENTS failed.  You don't protect your child from being given appropriate consequences forever, because this is exactly what happens. That monster that those parents created -- took a son and brother and cousin and nephew away from their family. There is NO excuse for that. [/quote]

You need better friends. [/quote]

Not my friends, but you are partially correct - boys like those have been trouble for a big part of their lives, this stuff doesn't fester over night, and they undoubtedly need better parents. Undoubtedly.

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