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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]and yes, do people generally trust the CPS to verify if the suspicion was valid or not? if so, then I agree no harm in calling

you are right that I might have a different view on things after my case is indeed closed[/quote]

There is harm in calling if unfounded. Like there is harm in calling police on a black man walking through your neighborhood. He could legitimately get shot. Similar here- if this is a family of color, that girl is getting removed from the home “pre emptively”[/quote]

This is not unfounded, though.

Worrying too much about protecting adults is how Jeffrey Epstein got away sexual abuse, soliciting sex from minors, rape, etc, even after he had gone to jail for it. I really can't believe this thread. [/quote]

Adults?? I’m worried about THE GIRL. Being removed from her home for a few days “in case your brother is raping you”. You can’t see how that would destroy her trust, her views on sexuality, her life?[/quote]

The girl who does not initiate anything with her brother, but can't get her brother - who is much larger and 3 yrs older -  to stop grabbing her, picking her up, holding on to her, lying on her and kissing her?  That girl?  The one who says no, but the parents think that the kids will work it out between themselves?

She already can't trust her parents.  She already is in a bad situation.   Heaven forbid she gets time away from him.  Heaven forbid she gets a reprieve from that hell.  Can you imagine having to live that way? [/quote]

Look, cps isn’t going to remove those kids from the house based on what you wrote (and if they do, and you think the outcome will be better for her, you are so wrong). I don’t like it either but it’s the facts. OP is the only one who knows just how messed up things look, [/quote]

^^ meant to continue, and if she thinks this girl will be better off in foster care or a group home, then sure, call. Maybe she would be. But that’s the “good outcome”. Other outcome is cps comes, nothing happens, and the brother then takes it out on his sister for the next 8 years until she can leave. Or the family casts off the boy when in actuality he didn’t do anything “sexual”, and his life is destroyed. I’m just saying OP needs to think about what outcome she hopes for here.[/quote]

You are jumping off the deep end.  CPS will investigate.  There is hope this family will get help, because even what is going on that people can see is inappropriate.  These parents need help. This girl needs help, and this boy needs help if he doesn't want to end up in prison as an adult. [/quote]

You sound like someone who would call the police on a family of color “just to make sure things are ok- they will investigate and if kings are fine then no problem!” After witnessing something like shop lifting. That’s not what happens. Families are ripped apart because they aren’t living up to the idealistic view of what a perfect family looks like. Maybe that girl has a brother who doesn’t treat her well and is ducking up her view of men. That really truly sucks. Things won’t get better for her after a rainbows and butterflies cps visit. Please. Either nothing happens and she is mortified and feels guilty for life, or she is removed and put in a truly much worse home[/quote]

I have no idea why you keep conflating calling CPS for sexually inappropriate behavior that multiple professionals have said raises red flags to calling the cops on a person for being black, but you are not coming across as a rational thinker here.  I get that you have issues with the existence of CPS in general (they won't do anything!  but they'll break up the family!  or not even investigate!  but also ruin everyone's life by investigating too much or not at all!), but that's a you issue, not a sign that there shouldn't be agencies concerned with child welfare.[/quote]
Well said. Thank you.[/quote]

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