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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think there might be just one poster here who keeps adamantly insisting that every woman’s alcohol processing is different and so drinking any amount of alcohol is unsafe. I’m just not buying it. I think by this time in life, you’d know if you’re someone super unique and special who gets absolutely hammered from one glass of wine over dinner. And I’ve yet to see any evidence that some placentas just like suck all the minute amounts of alcohol in your blood stream tricking in over the course of an hour or two and manage to inject it straight into the fetus. Show me the proof of these outlier women and placentas. Show me the proof that some woman drank a couple glasses of wine during her pregnancy and her baby got a FASD. Otherwise, you just seem like a crazy person on a fervent mission to get everyone to believe your assertions that have zero basis in reality. And I say that as someone who didn’t have any alcohol during her pregnancies. 
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I'm the PP who posted the JAMA article and another response - I just joined the thread today, so I'm not the only one posting. I also made none of those assertions. Your attempt to flame me is puzzling and I don't think you have a very good understanding of the science. I don't really either, but I can grasp that alcohol is a toxin in the human body and that a lot of kids end up having FASD. I'm sure anyone who has a kid with developmental delays, behavior disorders etc would tell you whatever benefit you get from drinking is not worth even the tiny chance of it causing your child harm. People with addictions are different - they can't always choose, but the rest of us can. In fact, it's one of the easiest parenting decisions of all time.[/quote]

Weird that you're taking this as a personal flaming if you're the only person here. [b]Are you the thin lady buying your organic strawberries and spinach at whole foods? I didn't like her.[/b]

IMO the JAMA article doesn't really evaluate the questions we'res talking about. The study cites a large polling of pregnant women that said 3.1% reported at least one binge drinking episode in the previous 30 days.  10.2% reported some recent drinking. Of the 6000 or so kids surveyed in the study, only 131 kids had actual diagnosable FASD or PFASD. The rest of the kids (91 or them, so 41% of the kids they are giving a positive diagnosis on) were judged on having neurodevelopmental disorders connected to alcohol exposure. The study itself cites this as a weakness.

[quote]...the criteria defining neurobehavioral impairment in this study were selected to balance sensitivity for deficits that have functional consequences with specificity for the characteristic neurobehavioral domains known to be affected by prenatal alcohol exposure. The objective was to produce prevalence estimates across multiple communities using a one-time evaluation to identify children with measurable deficits consistent with prenatal alcohol exposure. However, in the absence of a definitive biomarker for fetal alcohol spectrum disorders, it is impossible to know what proportion of these deficits were caused by fetal alcohol exposure. Therefore, prevalence estimates, particularly for alcohol-related neurodevelopmental disorder, could be overestimated.[/quote]

Also, the study itself has a standard of meaningful alcohol exposure in pregnancy which would assume some type of agreement on the part of researchers that while there is no KNOWN safe limit, there are some things widely assumed to be safe. Like a very occasional glass of wine. As defined in their appendix:

[quote]IV. Alcohol Consumption Criteria
One or more of the following conditions must be met to constitute documented prenatal alcohol
exposure during pregnancy. The information must be obtained from the biological mother or a
reliable collateral source (eg, family member, social service agency, or medical record)
A. 6 or more drinks per week for 2 or more weeks during pregnancy
B. 3 or more drinks per occasion on 2 or more occasions during pregnancy
C. Documentation of alcohol-related social or legal problems in proximity to (prior to or during)
the index pregnancy (eg, history of multiple citations for driving while intoxicated or history of
treatment for an alcohol-related condition)[/quote][/quote]

So you didn't like her when you thought she was obese and eating junk food while pregnant, and you don't like her now for being thin and health-conscious? You sound like a real peach - a GMO peach, that is.[/quote]

What? Im not the poster who called her obese. Im the poster she called a lush. It was simply a notable detail to identify her with. I didn't like her because I thought she was rude and histrionic.

There's no scientific evidence that gmo goods are bad for you either btw.[/quote]

And with your “GMOs are good for you” attitude, I’m out. Clearly nothing in this world is dangerous to you. I’ll give you the last word. [/quote]

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