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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do you know how to get antibiotics for a sinus infection? Walk into minute clinic, tell them you had a cold almost two weeks ago and now your face hurts, especially when you bend over, oh...and your upper teeth hurt, and you’ve been using saline for 10 days and it’s not helping. Bingo - prescription. Do you know how to get your kid diagnosed with ADHD? Walk into a psychiatrists office...tell them the kid can’t focus, kid can’t initiate or complete tasks, kid takes 4 hours to to 1 hour of homework, kid is trying hard with tutors and not making progress. One IQ test, a few achievement tests, and a report from a teacher corroborating that the kid is flaky and can’t put his phone down long enough to focus and ta-da, extra time in school and on SAT/ACT. When SAT and ACT kick back the paperwork, you appeal and almost always goes through. I’ve seen it happen multiple times. This isn’t rocket science. There is no definitive test for ADHD, it’s simply reported symptoms. I know there are plenty of people who genuinely have ADHD, but there are plenty of high schoolers who don’t and got a diagnosis once their parents realized this wasn’t going the way they wanted it to. [/quote] First, there is an objective, definitive test for ADHD. The TOVA. So, there’s that. Second, your grand scheme is to coach a kid fake an IQ test, coach a kid to fake achievement tests, coach a kid to lie to a psychologist (who interviews and tests them separately from you over several hours), coach them to lie to the pediatrician, and coach them to act “flaky” at school— or ask a teacher to lie? Do you have any idea how f’ed up it is to coach a kid to lie that broadly so they can cheat? Or that it tells your kid you don’t believe they can succeed on their own merits? I review IQ tests in a different context. You know what happens when people malinger? It gets picked up in the testing and the test is marked as invalid. When subtest scores are wonky, people get the hard stuff and miss the easy stuff, kids have decent grades and the IQ comes back at 65 because they intentionally missed questions, GAI is low and PS is high and you are claiming ADHD, IQ subtests are out of line with achievement tests— theses tests are thrown out as invalid due to malingering. It is not easy to fake the testing. It’s nearly impossible to fake the TOVA. You have zero idea what you are talking about. And it’s disturbing that you are telling your kids they have to lie and cheat on such a large scale to get ahead. Felicity Huffman says hi from her jail cell. Educational testers have PhDs and put their licenses on the line when they sign test reports. They are harder to fool over 6 hours for a kid than minute clinic is over 10 minutes for an adult. And you probably aren’t fooling Minute Clinic either. They just don’t feel like arguing with you, so they hand you a prescription because you are loud, obnoxious and not leaving without it. A real ADHD diagnosis is time consuming and expensive to get. And requires regular follow ups for medication. And, I assume you will also be giving your kid speed they don’t need every day to sell this story, right? Much easier, less time consuming and not illegal to just hire a 1:1 SAT tutor. You have no idea what you are talking about. And your kid isn’t getting into Brown because they didn’t earn Brown. And because you are a shitty parent who taught your kid that lying to get ahead was a-ok. Not because some ADHD kid got extended time. [/quote]
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