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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No conspiracy. I do think there were parents who thought they had the system figured out. Their children were sufficiently prepped and then they successfully scored high enough on the different metrics that would have been competitive in years past. But not this year.

The students who were not invited just did not score high enough because of the change.

I think the parents of those students feel cheated, but the current system is more fair in my opinion. Others have stated why over and over, so I won’t rehash. But the parents who think it’s unfair won’t ever hear it. They’ll continue to think their child was more deserving and was cheated out of a superior education because they’re [insert reason]. [/quote]

You are NOT listening too. Past posts said highest scorers were not invited due to cohort. You just chose to think in your way. [/quote]

+1
In the past them main way MCPS ranked candidates was globally. Every applicant was looked at against every applicant.
Because of the peer cohort criteria kids are essentially competing with other kids at their own school.

So if Larla goes to Cold Spring and has straight As, 99th percentile Cogat, 99th percentile MAP  but they have 5 other kids with all As, 99.9th percentile Cogat, 99th percentile MAP and 7 others just like her at "only" 99th percentile Cogat she will likely not get in. Either to the CES or MS Magnet.

If Larlo goes to a low performing school has As and Bs, 95th percentile Cogat, 90th percentile MAP and is the top scorer in his grade and everyone else in the 80s for MAP he would get in under the new admissions process.

Is this more fair? I can see both sides but PPs who keep insisting that many parents are upset because their kids just didn't score "high enough" need to better understand what happened before they open their mouths. It's simply not true.
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If you look at the documents MCPS has posted on its CES/Magnet website, that's what changed formally.  At the MS magnet level, the only datapoint I have, which is DC's CES school, points to a real, significant drop in the then-5th graders selected for the two magnets in Spring 2018 compared to 2017.  So much so that the principal made a point to mentioning it at the orientation/open house.  But at the regional CES level, I haven't seen a single post from a parent saying, wow, in 2017 it was 3 kids and now it's 10 kids that were selected from the home ES.  (Barnsley, with the same number of seats but less ES covered, ought to be an example.)  Obviously, a number of posters report it went the other way for their home ES.  At our DC's home ES, it was basically the same, as best I can tell, but maybe it would have been different had the criteria not changed.  The problem is that going from 7 to 4 or 5 to 8 may be just due to specific students more than anything else.  Maybe MoCo will eventually release that information, but it's doubtful.  It may be another year or two before the effects are clearer.[/quote]

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