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FP.  Again and again you and other people are making a correlation and assuming it is causal.  [b]The prevalence of guns in correlational, not causal.[/b]  I hope you are not a teacher when you are posting repeatedly the same mistakes of fact.

It shouldn't be that hard to understand that other countries have different societies (history, value systems, social systems, etc).  In this case, attesting that the gun ownership, or lack thereof, of some random person in another country is an indicator of whether or not that country will have mass violence is akin to saying that we all need to eat pasta because that's how they do it in Italy and they have a lower incidence of heart disease (remember that one from 10-20 years ago?).

The causal relationship is mental illness.  Unfortunately, here in the US we ignore and don't treat mental illness.  In fact, just look at your post.  You take great pains to avoid addressing the issue of mental illness of the young man.  In your post you are completely focused on an inanimate object that requires some sort of human or mechanical intervention in order to operate.  Again, I am not a gun owner nor am I a gun advocate but I do have to say that if we as a society had treated this young man's mental illness then likely this tragedy would have been averted.

It is very clear from the early reports that this shooter in Florida had significant mental health issues.  He should have been in treatment, possibly hospitalized and most certainly on medication yet he was not.  This young man was failed by us as a society, by law enforcement that did not act on tips, by his family and by his community.  None of the people around him pushed for help for him when he was incapable of recognizing his own illness.  And because of those systemic and societal failures, 17 people died.  This is a tragedy that could have and should have been averted by the timely actions of the young man's family, community and law enforcement.

I refuse to strike when the strike is focused on the wrong problem.  I will not support a walk-out either.[/quote]

No, it's causal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/world/americas/mass-shootings-us-international.html

If you don't want to strike, then don't strike. If you don't want to support a walk-out, then don't support a walk-out.[/quote]

Oh, dear.  Reading comprehension is a problem for you.  Did you make it all the way down to the end of the article or did you stop midway?  Just wondering but based on your posts I already know the answer ... sigh.[/quote]

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