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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]TJ is the Nathan Chen of high schools - all hype but doesn’t deliver in the end.[/quote]

Which high school has (on average) 12+ acceptances to MIT, 13+ acceptances to Duke, 10+ acceptances to Princeton, 30+ acceptances to Berkeley, 50+ acceptances to Michigan, 7-8 acceptances to Yale, 7-8 acceptances to Stanford, 5-6 acceptances to Harvard, 25+ acceptances to Cornell, 10+ acceptances to Chicago, 30+ acceptances to CMU, 200+ acceptances to UVA per year?[/quote]

There are also typically 7-8 to Columbia, 8-9 to Penn, 7-8 to Brown, 8-9 to Dartmouth, 10-12 to Northwestern, 3-5 to Academies, 2-3 to Oxford/Cambridge and 70-80 to W&M. [/quote]

And, for JMHS over 8 years places as many to the elite schools at TJ does per year.  Yet the only requirement for madison is to live in Vienna.  This is 1785 acceptances to top/very good schools, and still over 1000 if we exclude Va Tech.  If we look at where kids went, it is more telling:   Approximately 819 people attended these schools.  On average, madison graduated 450 in that period, so 23% went to one of the listed schools.  That compares to about 85% of TJ.  If you exclude Va Tech, 14% when to schools like UVA/W & M or better.

But, I This means the average TJ students are doing no better than the top 15% of madison.

school #admit  # attend
Brown University: 6	6	4
University of California	11	4
Carnegie Mellon University	24	3
University of Chicago	11	7
Columbia University	6	7
Cornell University	29	15
Dartmouth College	7	3
Duke University	16	9
Georgetown University	25	15
Georgia Institute of Technology	48	10
Harvard University	3	2
Harvey Mudd College	2	0
Johns Hopkins University	17	4
Massachusetts Institute of Technology	3	3
Northwestern University	11	2
University of Pennsylvania	7	3
Princeton University	9	7
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute	28	7
University of Southern California	19	6
Stanford University	6	5
Virginia Tech	728	296
University of Virginia	414	265
Washington University in St. Louis	23	6
College of William and Mary	330	135
Yale University	2	1[/quote]

Are you saying this is over 8 year period? How about posting for 1 year?[/quote]

+1 Do you mean that in all of 8 years, only 2 kids have gone from Madison to Harvard, 5 to Stanford, 1 to Yale, 3 to MIT and 7 to Princeton???  And you are comparing that to a single year's 2017 results at TJ?  College admissions has gotten quite a bit more difficult in the last 8 years so you can't really compare 2009 results to 2017.  Why don't you compare 2017 Madison results to 2017 TJ results?[/quote]

YOU ARE A MORON WITH NO ANALYTICAL SKILLS.  Everyone agrees that the average student at TJ is better than the average student at any other school in the county, because of the way they are selected.  What I am saying is, IF the goal is to get into a better college, then UNLESS you are at the top of the class, there is NO advantage to TJ.

My DD is in the top 10% of Madison.  She did not want to apply to TJ and she did not.  But, from a college admission stand point, unless you are in the top 10% of TJ (maybe 15%, maybe 20%), it does not matter.  4% of Madison gets into schools comparable to 20% of TJ; 22% of Madison gets into schools comparable to most of the TJ students.  But, not all of those 22% would be able to get into TJ.  I expect the same numbers hold for Oakton, McLean, Woodson, Langley and some others.

By inference (that is a big word for TJ), the TJ student, if they were at the base school, would get into a comparable if not better college, on average.

I can not use 1 yer worth of data because the numbers at Madison are too small.  On average, we are looking at 8 students per year at Madison that go to the same elite schools as 40 or so at TJ.

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This is certainly an interesting thread just for the personalities of presumed parents who are posting here.  I have no dog in this fight but when one person resorts to calling someone else a moron usually that means they are on the losing end of an argument.[/quote]

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