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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It would actually not be all that far-fetched to presume his mom abused substances while she was pregnant.

I don't think it breeds sociopathy in all cases, but every sociopath origin story I've read seems to start with something like that. [/quote]

I’m not convinced mom being a junkie is even true. He lied about her being the high school valedictorian (or salutatorian). Mom being a POS junkie with no self-control was a narrative the Sackler family certainly appreciated.

Does the mom have a criminal record? Was her nursing license ever suspended? Fired from her job?

It was the core of him having this allegedly tumultuous childhood. Take away mom being a pill junkie and he’s raised in a decent and safe middle of Ohio suburb (nowhere near Appalachia), in a stable two parent household, both parents gainfully employed, a step-dad who loved him enough to legally adopt him and give him his surname, with nearby grandparents who made enough money to buy a new Buick every year.[/quote]

PP here has done a great job of laying out the possible (probable) fraud in Vance's memoir. My parents were probably around Vance's parents' age, give or take a decade. My parents NEVER bought a new car until mid '90s, NEVER. If you lived in our Midwestern semi-rural neighborhood, you knew the folks who could afford a new car year. No one, no one was buying a Buick.[/quote]

The red flag about the mom is that she was a successful college-educated RN, who married both JD’s bio dad and JD’s step-father who adopted him. Marriage and legal adoption of your son is not the behavior of underclass pill junkies.

Another red flag is JD’s sister is also still in that same area, which he characterized as this backward hellhole full of junkies. Sister is a graduate of Miami of Ohio, I believe.

But his childhood was so austere, JD at age 27 — after military desk duty, undergrad at OSU, internships on the Hill, and mentored by neocons — wrote he didn’t know how to use a fork at dinner. Frazzled JD had to call his anchor baby girlfriend on his cell phone from a restaurant bathroom to learn what utensils to use! :roll:

It’s all just so preposterous. The guy’s entire life story is obviously fake.[/quote]

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