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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This thread has reached a new level of cray with the speculation that a woman lay on the ground behind a dumpster pretending to be unconscious while a man dry humped her and stuck pine needles in her vagina.  :shock:  FFS, get a grip people. [/quote]

He didn't "stick them" in her vagina. They got pushed up when he was fingering her. Just like he didn't put them in her hair or clothing - they got stuck when she was laying in them on the ground. 
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More distinctions that are beside the point, and hilarious as a defense. He did stick them in her vagina, as a byproduct of fingering her where she lay unconscious on the ground - my point was that no woman lies on the ground pretending to be unconscious while that is happening. To suggest she was taking all of that willingly to protect her dad's academic reputation or to avoid a citation of her own is beyond absurd.[/quote]

She led him behind the wood fence - an area where she had been to earlier in the night with her sister and an area that Brock Turner did not seem that familiar with because he referred to it as a "wood shed" not a dumpster area.  The assumption is that at least at the beginning, the contact was consensual.  She was kissing/touching him back and responding to be kissed/touched.

He says that he was "dry humping" her when the swedes arrived on the scene.  The swedes statement is consistent with what Turner says he was doing.

I think it's quite possible that she passed out mid makeout.  It all happened very fast (within minutes) and the swedes caught the tail end of the encounter and put an abrupt end to it.

I think that it is odd that the victim was so completely out of it for so long and through so much - through being dry humped, through bystanders talking to her/rolling her on her side, to police speaking loudly at her and photos being taken of her, through the paramedics assisting her and then transporting her to the hospital - no memory of any of it.  I also think that it is strange that an extremely athletic man who was supposedly being forcibly restrained did not leave a scratch on either one of these guys restraining him.[/quote]

Where's the evidence that "she led him" there?[/quote]

Turner said that she led him back there and that is consistent with the fact that she had been back behind that area with her sister during the course of the night.  Turner appeared unfamiliar with that area, referring to it as a "woodshed". [/quote]

So you're going to believe the convicted rapist. Hmm. [/quote]

Yes, with the caveat that people in big trouble are going to soften the truth in their own favor - I get that.  The victim has said that she had been in that area before.  The swedes said that they saw Turner dry humping the victim.  There is no evidence that this victim was forcibly taken back there because she walked back there.

The swedes and the victim weren't bruised/scratched by Turner's hands because he was not being physically forceful with them.  [/quote]

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