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So basically if I get my kid way ahead by signing them up for outside math they should automatically get into to TJ?[/quote]

Signing up for outside math is not the same as being capable of advanced math.[/quote]

That's the key point.  In the United States it's not common or expected to be signing up for additional schoolwork especially if your kid is already above grade level.

These are all actions that are common in other countries.  It's time to stop servicing folks who are in Calculus in 9th or 10th not because they are actually talented but because they have been suppplemented at home or in official afterschool sessions/classes for years priors.

There are many kids who would be "advanced" in math if they spent double the normal time on math; outside of school in addition to in-school instruction.[/quote]

Like it or, you xenophobic moron, this is the United States. These are people legally in the US contributing to the economy. Maybe even your boss. So you can't wish them away with your nonsense. If people like you were in charge we wouldn't have had great universities, nuclear capabilities and so many other things in this country. All of that came from outside the United States. Deal with it! [/quote]

Guess what these test prepping fools aren't the smartest kids.  You know what makes the US better than those Asian countries creativity and real understanding.  There are so many of these prepped kids who have no depth.  It's all drill and kill.  Deal with that.[/quote]
DP cutting into this argument chain... you're making creativity about race, which is not accurate. In fact, academically, other races exhibit just as much creativity (and certainly real understanding of academics) compared to American peers. I partially agree with what you're [i]trying [/i]to say though, which is that Asians cultures tend to act less creatively because they follow a narrower set of norms when it comes to many things, education included, so everyone 'looks alike'. However you're not seeing the deeper picture, you talk technology i.e "nuclear capabilities" and call it US superiority, but are you aware that most cutting edge tech research in the US is done by Asians? We have an amazing system of drawing the best and the brightest here to the US to work in science, mathematics, technology, and without them working here we wouldn't be technologically superior. It takes a lot of intelligence, creativity, hard work, and luck to succeed in these fields, and sadly America does not organically produce nowhere nearly enough capable people to handle the demand we have for advancing these fields.

As to "prepping", again this is more dependent on individual families as to how they implement it on their kids, they can do it creatively where their kids are getting genuine, enriching, stimulation, or they can slowly "drill and kill" the creativity out of them which seems to be what you are referring to.[/quote]

You are arguing using logic with a lazy, racist xenophobe. waste of breath. [/quote]

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