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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think people here are catastrophizing. We don’t know what will happen, so I’m suspicious of anyone who announces they know the number with certainty. But we are in a better position than a lot of people. Clearly we are vulnerable to the RIF, some will probably lose jobs, but I do not think we are the priority for deep cuts. Yes, a lot of agencies have cut past the point of functioning, but VA is cutting less than other agencies percentage wise. That tells me this administration cares about our mission enough to not want to destroy it. We are mission critical. The project 2025 conservative agenda for VA is to privatize VHA and automate VBA. We don’t feature. So my guess is the RIFs focus on VHA to break it to the point of facilitating privatization. I think there will likely be a push to utilize AI more at VBA with an eye towards automation, but I don’t think it will get far because AI hallucinates. I don’t think they’ll make moves to automate our jobs unless it works at VBA and there’s no big pushback.

My most hopeful prediction is maybe they fire non vet probies, and maybe won’t even get that far if enough people take the DRP 2.0. I don’t know what will happen, but that’s my hopeful speculation. [/quote]

AI hallucination is a nonissue in this context. It hallucinates because it's allowed to do so. There are products that do not hallucinate, such as that provided by Lexis. The hallucination that you hear about in briefs and the news is because folks are using products like off the shelf GPT, which has no parameters that would prevent the hallucination. I was using AI before I joined BVA, and am a strong proponent for its rollout at BVA.

BVA is literally decades behind what the rest of the legal community is doing in terms of doc review, de-duplicating, predictive coding, analysis, etc. [/quote]

I’m hopeful that in the next 10 years, BVA will widely implement AI to adjudicate cases. If all goes well, BVA can reduce attorney headcount to 100 experienced attorneys to conduct quality reviews of AI decisions.[/quote]

Will AI make credibility determinations? That is a major issue that comes into factor with lay evidence.  Also, would CAVC accept a credibility determination made by AI?[/quote]

Sure, it could. It would consider the same things that we do - consistency, corroboration, testimonial infirmities, etc.

CCW can absolutely be programmed.

BVA work is very basic and formulaic. [/quote]

Actually, you don’t need judges then. You still need attorneys. That’s what your argument comes down to.  [/quote]

That is true. If you just rely on AI, you don’t need any judges. And I think you people are all making this way too simple. AI is only a tool. It can’t be an end. If I have something seriously wrong with me, I can turn to the Internet to help me diagnose, but I’m going to see a doctor for a real opinion. [/quote]

That’s why BVA needs a cadre of 100 or so experienced attorneys to review AI drafted decisions for quality. Humans won’t be completely out of the adjudication process, at least not yet.[/quote]

That’s not correct thinking. Unless you’re going to start from the position that AI is 100% correct, it’s going to take just as much time to review that decision written by AI and then compare it with the actual evidence of record. It might actually take more time.

It’s a lot easier to review the evidence and write a decision, then it is to review somebody else’s decision and then go through the evidence to find the evidence it supports. [/quote]

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