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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People please watch this or one of the other great explanation videos posted before asking any more questions. Most of your questions will be answered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3gD_lnBNu0[/quote]

Thank you—this is super informative. Thinking of everyone involved.[/quote]

yes informative.  And really drives home the multiple errors.[/quote]

To me it drives home multiple potential factors but one glaring (and avoidable) rule breach: the helicopter flew at 400 ft in an area that was restricted to 200 ft.  The other factors may well have contributed but ultimately this is the one that matters and the rule is already in place. The military helicopter didn't follow the rules.

Maybe the military helicopters often break that rule, maybe they make their own rules... ok, that takes away the helo pilot's (or the crew's) personal responsibility. But from all of these helpful explanations what has become clearer is that there is a system in place to prevent this from happening and the military helicopter was at fault.

A second important question is whether we should improve safety in other ways that people here are mentioning. But I agree with PP that it is crucial to understand the specifics of this accident to prevent future tragedies. And the fact remains, if both aircrafts had followed the rules, this would not have happened.[/quote]
Re altitude at 350 by airport passing and not 200

This really builds distrust of military exercises in DC.

They never follow the altitude rules and can’t be bothered to.

Then layer in this gross negligence and incompetency or “total brain farts” and here we are. [/quote]

This is what my spouse who works in infrastructure and has to deal with the US military a lot says.

They don't follow rules designed to promote cooperation among agencies/entities -- they view their mission as more important, always, and think they can make their own rules.

But if someone violates *their* rules, even accidentally, you will be punished in some way because everyone is just supposed to know how the military operates internally.

It's a problem of them feeling like they are above the law and that everyone should defer to them. Even though in this case, obviously this helicopter doing an unnecessary training run near an airport handling millions of passengers a day should have been deferring.

To be clear, I'm not blaming the crew of the helicopter here but the culture of the military that led the people on that crew to think they can break standard procedure and it will be fine. Helicopters constantly fly above 200ft through that corridor and ATC is constantly having to tell them to go down, and planes have frequently had to abort landings to accommodate that. It's ridiculous. The military is not more important than FAA or NTSB, yet they the rules from those agencies don't apply to them. And as a result 67 people died for no good reason.[/quote]

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