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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This entire thread is 123 pages of one theist trying to make atheists look unreasonable and failing miserably.[/quote]

They look unreasonable on their own, nobody needs to help them.

Why do atheists care about Jesus?[/quote]

We have nothing but interpretations of secondary sources. No independent, eyewitness accounts. No archeological artifacts. It's inaccurate to claim otherwise.

Why do theists care about the historicity? They "believe" the story of him whether he actually existed or not. 
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Jesus Christ is our spiritual leader and through him we gain salvation. Knowing and acknowledging out Lord was a real man who died on the cross is part of our religion. That’s why Christians care.

Again, why do atheists care?[/quote]

It’s [i]the story[/i] that you find compelling. You know aspects of it aren’t true so why should it matter if an actual man lived or not?

His physical existence doesn’t affect you either way. 
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So you are telling me how I should think and feel about my religion? Why? As an atheist- why do you care about Jesus and why do you care about how I practice my religion? Can I tell you how to think and feel about any subject? You are crazy!![/quote]

His physical existence doesn’t affect you either way. Millions of Christians probably never gave it a second thought.

Why do you need to prove that he absolutely lived?

Does that desire for absolute certainty cloud your reasoning? 
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Are you an atheist? You have no belief in God; how does the historical existence of Jesus affect you?

If the reason you don’t believe in God is your desire for absolute certainty in His existence, does that cloud your thinking?

Lots of historians and archaeologists and professors of the Classics aren’t religious and [b]know[/b] historical Jesus existed…it’s not a matter of faith. It’s a [b]historical fact[/b].

No atheist will explain why they are concerned about the historicity of Jesus? Does their non-belief in religion cloud their judgment and make it so they can’t accept historical facts because they have an agenda?

I don’t need to [b]prove he absolutely lived[/b]; every historian and scholar in the academic world has already done that. You are the one with the problem with history not linking up with your personal beliefs and feeling as if denying Jesus will validate your disbelief.

After all, the man who claimed to be the Son Of God creating the world’s largest religion is mighty inconvenient, isn’t it?[/quote]

I do think it’s very likely that he lived, but I don’t have any skin in the game either way. It doesn’t affect me one way or another.

I think this is an interesting exercise to explore evidence, proofs, “truths”, and various levels of critical thinking.

“Every historian and scholar” has NOT proven that he “absolutely lived”. There is strong secondary evidence that he did so many do “accept” that he lived. 
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So you are an atheist who has spent how many hours if their life thinking about Jesus?

Any atheist who has commented multiple times and debated here: how many comments have you contributed? How much “research” have you done about Jesus? How many hours of your atheist life have you spent thinking about Jesus? Why?[/quote]

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