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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]At some point, I have to get to work, but this document dump is insane. There’s a text exchange with Colleen and one of her friends named Taryn. From June 2024. Well before any retaliation or smear campaign mind you.

Colleen is trashing Justin’s engagement video. Keep in mind the engagement video is well over a decade old as he’s been with his wife for many years and they have two children who are tweens at this point.

She and her friend are just s&@t talking the video and making fun of it. Then Colleen says, “we’ll use it as inspiration for when Blake and I do it starts with us”

Proof positive that in June 2024 the plan was to take the rights from the sequel from Justin and have Blake and Colleen do it.

It seems a lot of the hating on Justin had nothing to do with the actual movie set and just his posts on Instagram and his personality. Which is fine we don’t all have to like each other. But again these are adults just bullying and picking apart dumb things that have nothing to do with their job.[/quote]

I see that another way.

In June 2024, Colleen had quite a bit of experience with Justin professionally. She had been working with him in some capacity for two years. It seems to me that she withheld judgment on his personality for a loooooong time, but that after Justin and Jamey took her to that dinner where they trashed Blake to her (at this point Colleen had only met Blake one time, very briefly, and had no real opinion of her one way or the other), she'd finally just had it with his behavior.

A huge problem for Justin here is that he held himself out to all these women as an ally and male feminist -- Christy Hall, Colleen Hoover, Blake, Jenny Slate, Liz Plank, Alex Saks, Isabele Ferrer. And each of them discovered in their interactions with him that he is not that. He's a misogynist. He talks over women, he yells at women, he can't take criticism from women. He wants the benefit of the doubt at all times, that he's a "good guy" but when some of these women would tell him "look, I don't like this behavior" his response was to become vindictive, to pout, and to play the victim. He does it over and over.

A lot of this was that he was just bad at this job. He gave himself this huge role -- star/director/producer. It would be a lot for even a very experienced director (which he was not), or someone who had played a lead role in a lot of major films (which he had not), or someone with a ton of producing credits (which he did not have). And he failed at it. And when he failed, he blamed all the women around him for his OWN failure, and those women correctly viewed that as him being misogynist ahole.

I say all this still not really sure that Blake can prove SH or retaliation. I don't know. There's some evidence but a lot of it is mitigated. She truly might not have a case here, and yes a ton of embarrassing stuff has come out about her that makes me not very sympathetic to her and very likely might have ended her career.

But is Justin Baldoni a victim? OMG NO. I am not even a little surprised this man wound up getting sued, and I actually think if it had not happened don this movie, it would have happened on a subsequent project. You cannot walk around claiming to be a male feminist while talking to and treating women this way. He should be absolutely humiliated for this and I'm glad that all this information about him has come out and destroyed his stupid "Man Enough" empire, which we can now see was total BS. He absolutely was trying to use the mantle of feminism and allyship to cover up for being a shitty dude who, oh by the way, is not even particularly skilled or talented. No sympathy for this man. None. These dudes are awful and I am sincerely glad I've never had the displeasure of working for or with them. No thank you.

I can't take anyone who defends Justin and his behavior seriously, not after reading all this evidence and these depositions. He's awful.[/quote]

If you have a problem with Justin using the words hot and sexy (when Blake’s wearing a fleece onesie/watch the video) then surely you have an issue with Blake telling Brandon sklenar she’s a pimp and to get into a corner and put on a short skirt. The hypocrisy of Blake fans is wild.

The only discrimination case here is Justin against Blake for repeatedly calling his religion a cult.[/quote]

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