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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can’t believe this thread is 120 pages. The situation is clear as day on video. Alex was carrying a gun legally (the most important right according to MAGA). He did not reach for his gun. Agents took the gun away from him. Agents then attacked an unarmed Alex and shot him several times after he was absolutely no threat to them. These agents are not trained properly and this was execution pure and simple. [/quote] This. Two agents fired 10 rounds, half of which were fired after Pretti was face down on the ground, not moving. As with Good's murder, there were numerous actions that are counter to normal law enforcement methods that put the victim, the officers, and bystanders at increased risk. In Good's case, why was the officer repeatedly circling her vehicle? Officers are trained to approach vehicles from the side to prevent intentional or accidental harm. Why was the officer's gun in his hand? Officers are generally trained to only unholster their weapon in specific circumstances, which were not met in that scenario. Why was the officer attempting to film Good with one hand with his gun in his other? Especially in a situation with multiple officers on the scene, there was no good reason for this and likely increased the odds of an accidental or inappropriate weapons discharge. In Pretti's case, why did the first officer pepper spray Pretti and the woman he was helping, when neither were engaged in a violent or provocative act necessitating that measure? Why was Pretti kicked and beaten even after he'd been immobilized by multiple officers? Who was the officer in charge in the scrum? Why was Pretti shot by an officer who had a clear view of Pretti's empty hands? Why was Pretti shot in the back while face down? Why did d the second officer start shooting when Pretti was clearly already injured, possibly dead, with hands visible and unarmed? What had Pretti or Good done or said to indicate they posed a threat of violence to any of these officers? Were any of the officers involved in either shooting given drug or alcohol testing after the shootings? Did any officer give a statement of their account of the shooting in the hours following? Were any eyewitnesses interviewed? Did DHS collect or review any of the video footage of these shootings? Is there any official record of investigation? The fact that we don't have any answers to any of this is how you know these officers and thus agency is not operating in a law enforcement capacity. Because that's how law enforcement handles on the job shootings. This is not normal.[/quote]
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