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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wow the GOP are freaking out.[/quote]

To the contrary Kamals played right into their hands by selecting a VP from a deep blue state [/quote]

So why did Trump choose JD Vance from the deep red state of Ohio?
Or Trump choose Mike Pence from Indiana?
Or Biden choose Kamala Harris from California?

Actually, when was the last time someone from a swing state was chosen as the VP?

While VP candidates can certainly be a burden (JD, Palin, Quayle), their upside potential is limited.[/quote]

Ohio isn’t deep red. It’s a swing state. Indiana went blue  in 2008. It became deep red with time but Pence’s appeal was he helped with Christians  who didn’t know like Trumps morals or crude language   [/quote]
disagree. It may not be deep red, but it's red.

https://www.270towin.com/states/ohio

WI, MI, PA are true swing states.[/quote]

They’re all swing states now. NJ is a swing state.

I think the only solid East Coast state for the Dems is Maryland. I wouldn’t be surprised if PA, NJ, NY, VA, NH flips. People are tired of migrant takeovers and woke public school districts [/quote]
Do you really think that OH won't vote for Trump/Vance? It may not be deep red, but it's red.[/quote]

Walz is more Ohio than Vance. Vance sounds like a douchebag sleek phony from the coast. And Trump is losing it.[/quote]
I'm not disagreeing with you about Vance,  but I don't think OH is gonna be impressed with Walz enough to vote D.[/quote]

If Ohio votes D - and I'm not saying this is very likely - it will be because women are pissed that Trump took away their reproductive rights. Walz's message that the government should "mind its own damned business" will resonate on that topic. [/quote]

In 2023, an off-year election, record numbers of Ohioans came out to vote (never had nearly as many in an off-year) for Ohio Issue 1, the add reproductive rights to the Ohio State Constitution.

Trump tried hard to back-pedal on the abortion issue.  He even said that he would consider a 15-week limit for abortions as a compromise, trying to appease his base and bring in some more moderate voters back to the Republican ticket.  Although he has a habit of promising the moon and delivering a hot air balloon ride, some people were starting to believe this incarnation and were starting to sway back.  Then he picked his VP candidate and Vance has been out going hardline.  Vance has been harping on strict anti-abortion restrictions.  His latest is trying to enact a federal ban barring women in states with abortion bans from traveling across state lines to get abortions in states that allow abortion.  He's truly showing how very Handmaiden's Tale he is going.

I expect that Vance's message will be resonating with the many voters who voted to protect their reproductive rights last year and that many of them will be convincing their neighbors and friends to vote with them.  In 2023, 2.1M voted for the amendment and 1.6M voted against.  In 2020, 3.15M voted for Trump and 2.68M voted for Biden, a difference of about 470K.

There is a good chance that if Harris and Walz play up the abortion issue and Vance's very strong anti-woman stances, that Harris and Walz could come pretty close to winning Ohio or actually winning Ohio.  470K is not that much considering that they enacted reproductive rights protection into the state Constitution just last year.  The urban suburbs of Cincinnati, Columbus, Dayton, and Cleveland will be coming out to support the issue.  And voters under-30 will be coming out to support the issue.  So, I expect that Ohio will be much closer than in 2020.  And while it is still leaving right, this issue has the weight to possibly tilt it over the the top.[/quote]

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