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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really wonder about the state of some people’s marriages if they are optimistic about the shiv/Tom relationship. It’s as broken and dysfunctional as her relationship with her biological family.[/quote] The last shot of Shiv and Tom indicate that they are at least going to try and give it a go, which is why people are speculating about how their marriage could functionally work under these circumstances. No one is looking at the marriage aspirationally. But plenty of people have marriages of conveniences or where it seems like it shouldn't work but where the interests of both parties align in a way to make it make sense. I think of the Clintons' marriage as an obvious example. Would I want it? Nope. But I actually think they do love each other and that they have made a weird arrangement that makes the marriage a good deal for both of them even though it would be unacceptable for most normal people. [/quote] I saw it differently, after the sibling relationship blow up, Shiv had no where to go for emotional support than a man that hates her but is willing to use her for her family name/position. The look on both their faces said it all, not the least bit of happiness on her face as the car pulled away.[/quote] I was going to say that Shiv had no good options, but she easily could have slid into the barstool next to Roman and enjoyed her life of being free from the firm. She's always had a decent relationship with both Roman and Connor, so it's not like her fallout with Kendall would make her a family pariah. In fact, Connor will be grateful, because he gets to cash out on his shares, instead of letting Kendall bleed his stock value. She chose to be miserable to continue to play the game. [/quote] I'm unconvinced that she is going to "continue to play the game." I think it's intentionally ambiguous. A lot of people seem to think her sitting next to Tom and tepidly offering her hadn't at the end of the episode means she's "gave" him Waystar to keep herself relevant. But I look at what she actually said in the conversation with Kendall and Roman during the board meeting and it feels like she's actually trying to let it all go. To wash her hands of it. And she's said it many times throughout the season -- she wanted the GoJo deal, she wanted out of ATN in particular, she was excited about getting a clean slate and building something new. I don't think there's a right or wrong interpretation but I don't automatically agree she's signing up for a sham marriage to a man who hates her just to keep her toe in the Waystar waters. I definitely saw her decision to be in that car as having more to do with trying to figure out what to do about her marriage and her baby, than anything to do with Waystar or Tom's role there. I think she really wants him back (she asks for him back at the beginning of the episode!).[/quote] I thought the ending was true to the essence of her character: Shiv always wants to have it both ways, all of the time, in everything. At the end of the day, this keeps her from ever really having anything.[/quote]
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