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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking. [/quote]
BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.[/quote]

100% this.

I'm sure a local Republican dogcatcher or two on the ballot are decent people. At the state and federal level, however, Republicans have chipped away at the decency and democratic norms that have historically underpinned our country. It is [i]not[/i] a both sides problem. It is 100% on Republicans.[/quote]

As someone who grew up in the a very Deep South MAGA enclave, I do believe that the way my folks view society and the world is different. And you can call it crazy and you are probably correct. I didn’t realize how different the rest of the country is until I went to college in the northeast. My roommate in college was from Africa and what I found strange was that I was culturally closer to him than many of my other college classmates from the northeast. Anyways I don’t know where we are headed as a country but I don’t know if we are actually all meant to be in the same country. My folks back home are truly crazy. But those folks think I am the Crazy one now.

On Tuesday we will find out. If we are the silent majority (dems) then why how is it possible that election deniers will be elected? I’m really confused…[/quote]

I think they will be elected because we do not have social safety nets in America. Economy is always the #1 issue. So the strategy of scaring people that the economy is horrible and then a recession is coming will always work. As long as folks don’t have decent healcare, descent wages, affordable housing, etc you can call them MAGA nuts, crazies all you want they will ALWAYS go for the candidate who TRICK them into thinking that he has the answers to their economic suffering.[/quote]

100% this. [b]And in my humble opinion this is why the strategy by democrats to emphasize that democracy is on the line was doomed to begin with.[/b] I saw on CNBC the other day that 63% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck and honestly I was stunned. And also do people really know the meaning of democracy? While it is a simple concept to many people it’s abstract. We are an individualist society and we are so busy with our lives that the entire neighborhood could be burning but as long as our house is not we will go to bed like nothing is happening….[/quote]

The average voter doesn't have the capacity to keep up with current events, contextualize them, or analyze local, national, and global trends. They'll gladly trade something abstract like democracy for something salient like gas prices that are a nickel cheaper.

Sadly, they'll get exactly what they vote for, and we'll all suffer for it.[/quote]

Well said. But democrats knew this though I am sure. While we do have inflation the economy is not in a catastrophic state and why on earth didn’t Dems highlight the strong economy??!! This is truly bizarre the GOP set the agenda and Dems end up defending themselves and following the GOP in nonsensical stuff. [b]Some people think that Dems don’t know how to talk to voters about kitchen table issues and that they put too much emphasize on cultural topics that don’t even affect the vast majority of Americans.[/b] But I think that’s just another GOP playbook defining Dems this way.

Dems need to step up their political game. [/quote]

Your entire post is spot on, but I wanted to highlight this in particular. It's really disappointing that Democrats have allowed Republicans to create and run with this narrative, when Republicans have [i]absolutely nothing[/i] to offer voters besides contrived culture war wedge issues (trans agenda!! CRT!! grooming!!). [/quote]
I would argue that Democrats are actually pretty great at explaining their take on the actual issues; listen to Liz Warren explain literally any of her policies, or for a more lightning rod take, listen to AOC. Listen to Katie Porter, or Swalwell or just about any Democrat. They’re clear, they’re concise, they explain how the Democrats will help people.

It just get drowned out the bullsht hose that the GOP floods the zone with. [/quote]

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