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I do give to charity but certainly nothing close to 30% but charitable giving is voluntary and taxes are not.

As I said, all Americans except those who are at poverty level should pay a certain minimum percentage of their income in the way of federal taxes because we all benefit from certain government services. But to castigate someone who uses the tax laws to avoid taxes is ridiculous whether it is Trump or anyone else.

Someone like Trump who does pay taxes despite his income may be penalized in the court of public opinion or by voters. I personally would not vote for Trump for other reasons but the fact that he pays little or no taxes is not a factor for me in how I'd vote.

What is missing in this entire thread is any sense of outrage that we have tax laws in effect that allows someone like Trump not to pay any taxes. Tax laws can be changed but it requires a resolve by voters that extends beyond anger at Trump or anyone else who takes advantage of existing tax laws.

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You are kidding, right?  This whole election is about that outrage.  Unfortunately, the people who are most screwed are also stupid and picked Trump.  If only they had coalesced around somebody sane.  For this election, though, if we want to avoid WWIII, we are doomed, and most of us realize this.  We won't forget this outrage, though, and hopefully we'll get somebody good to run in 4 years.

And if you think that obeying the rules makes you a good person, then you are morally bankrupt.  Our society will fall apart if all of us does whatever we can do to better ourselves without breaking the rules.  Nobody, no congress, nothing can write rules that are so iron clad that they cannot be avoided.  The only way to have a stable sane society is if our intelligent, ambitious, strong men and women follow the spirit behind the law and not just the letter.[/quote]

I am not kidding: we have two candidates who are deeply flawed and who are promising things that cannot be delivered.

If anyone seriously believes that the tax code will be revised to eliminate tax loopholes irrespective of who becomes president is living in a dreamland. The one candidate who really wanted to create a more equitable society was Bernie Sanders and he subsequently lost and caved to become a Hillary supporter and his sole rationale is that she is the lesser of two evils.

Sanders is the person who lambasted her on so many issues ranging from an inherently corrupt and rigged system to waging foreign wars - and now he wants his supporters to back her! 
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I agree that there is no choice that will reform taxes.  However, whether we like it or not, we have to choose between Trump and Clinton.  One is as vain, egotistic, and narcissistic as a third world dictator, who can produce no evidence that he has ever done good for anybody except his family, believes all kinds of bizarre conspiracy theories, and can be goaded into tweeting idiocy at 3 AM. [b]And one is just a run-of-the-mill politician.  I know which one I'll pick[/b].
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This is where I part company with you: Hillary is no run of the mill  politician. She is as dishonest as they come even by the standards of politicians. You may think she is the lesser of the two evils. I think they are both unacceptable.

I think they are both disgusting individuals and for the first time in well over two decades, I refuse to vote for a Democrat in the presidential election. In fact, if someone like Kasich were running I'd have voted Republican for the first time.

One of them will become president and I will defer to others to decide which one should be elected. I wish everyone Republican or Democrat who find the choices offered them would actually write-in a candidate who we deem an acceptable alternative. [/quote]

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