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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Liberals just can't seem to decide when they want to be interventionist/non interventionist. It's fascinating, but irritating too.[/quote]

But not as fascinating as trying to figure out why conservatives are so limited in their thinking. If only the world were as simple as to allow everything to be viewed as binary.
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Sometimes you intervene with aid, sometimes with diplomacy, and when all else fails you intervene with force, this is the conservative platform. By decrying our use of force as "interventionist" It seems that it is the liberal platform that is more limited.[b] Clinton refused to use meaningful force to protect US interests abroad and is a very popular president with liberals.[/b] [/quote]
My head is spinning.  Some have called her a "hawk", and of course, there is the whole "she's responsible for ISIS because she voted for the Iraq war" thing.  I don't see her as someone who is against using force.

Trump is against involving the US military when it comes to helping some of our allies in NATO.  And yes, NATO is part of our interests abroad.

But, I agree that sometimes you use aid and/or diplomacy, and not always force.[/quote]

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