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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Data that (a) is all taken from after affirmative action was eliminated and (b) pays no attention to the state's demographics doesn't really shed any light on this issue.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23516740/affirmative-action-ban-at-uc-15-years-later shows how much Latino admission rates to Berkeley have declined post-Prop 209.  See the red lines on the graphs.  Similar trajectory for African American and Native American admissions.

Note also that the Latino population of CA exceeds the non-Hispanic white population at this point.  13.6% of the freshman class at UCB is Latino while 39% of CA's population is Latino.  I wouldn't characterize that as "doing pretty well."[/quote]

I agree with many of your general points, but look in detail at the chart embedded in the article. UC system admission rates (yellow line) of Latinos are extremely close to whites':
http://www.mercurynews.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=5222490

So, Prop 209 is far from the cataclysm for all minorities that some people seem to believe it was. [/quote]

Also, notice this key paragraph in the article you sent:

"Overall, UC campuses are admitting more students from poor families than before the ban -- no surprise, perhaps, given demographic shifts and the system's post-Proposition 209 emphasis on reaching low-income students of all races. More than one third of the roughly 35,000 UC freshmen enrolled in 2010 came from families making less than $40,000, up from 28 percent in 1995. And even with record-high applications, the system's universities accepted 75 percent of all first-generation college students that year who applied."

It is obvious that no system is perfect, but that one seems to work better than the one they had before based on racial affirmative action.[/quote]

I don't like UC-system wide data when it comes to things like this because it is easy to game. Has the increase in poor students getting been equal among all UC campuses or are they shoving poor kids disproportionately to Riverside but Cal and UCLA getting 'less poor' in demographics?[/quote]

Well, from my perspective (Latino immigrant) it is precisely the UC-system metrics I care most about. I care much more about the thousands who can finally attend a UC campus (any!) than about the (potentially) dozens or hundreds who cannot attend Cal or UCLA.[/quote]

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