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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm liberal and I do not hate the men and women in the military at all. I'm related to a Colonel in the US Army who is a highly intelligent and dedicated man, and I have tremendous respect for him.

But if the way Kyle is being portrayed is at all true, then I do not care for who that man was. [/quote]

The 'if' is the problem. Any chance you plan to read his book, study up on the man, and make your own decision?[/quote]

I'll give you that it's problematic. And I'll answer you honestly that I will probably never read the work of a man who told numerous stories that are likely not true. [/quote]

I love words like "if" and "likely". Essentially, you won't read the book because you might learn something that goes against your liberal viewpoint. You might find out *gasp* terrorists are BAD PEOPLE![/quote]

Kyle's estate is on its second appeal of a $1.8M judgment against it for libel and slander.  Multiple judges have ruled him a liar; there is nothing "likely" about it.[/quote]

While he certainly was good a telling "sea stories" in interviews and to friends, his work in combat as a SEAL is not in question. The confirmed count of sniper kills is Pentagon confirmed. His own colleagues suggest the count his higher. He has multiple Bronze/Silver stars. How about you read the book or see the movie instead of passing judgement based on articles you've read?[/quote]

I've read the book.  I understand war is necessary, and that he was doing a job.  But I don't find that glorifying "confirmed kills" has a lot of honor in it.  You don't see a ton of other veterans coming home to get rich off writing books.  The people I know who served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam don't wax poetic about finding satisfaction in killing.  The only reason he is getting attention is because of his "confirmed kills" and the sickos who get off on glorifying that.  I think it's disgusting.[/quote]

What is disgusting is the amount of soldiers that would have been killed if he was not there.  That is why people call him the legend, that is why he was honored.  He saved many American soldiers.  How do you not understand that?  When they were on the ground walking around, they felt secure he was up there helping to take out anyone throwing grenades or coming in to bomb an entire tanker and so forth.  What soldier in their right mind would want to do ground patrol without an eye in the sky?  Would you?  If your family was over there you would want a Chris Kyle with them.  Do you get that?

And I am pretty sure the people you know from other wars don't talk about stuff with your whiny liberal ass.  They don't have time to defend what they did to people who just complain and don't understand what truly happens overseas. [/quote]

It's not about "defending what they did."  It's about having the class to realize that crowing about killing - regardless of whether it is "justified" by war - is morally repugnant, and the brains to realize that the world is not all black and white, and that war, violence and death is not a fucking game to come home and gain notoriety and riches from.[/quote]

You obviously have zero family that is in the military.  To make claims what soldiers should and shouldn't do when they come home?   He never tried to gain notoriety and he remained very humble and fought thru alcoholism and PTSD to come out somewhat sane.  He didn't leave out his medals but tucked them away. He helped many veterans with PTSD and started a non-profit charity.  [b]2/3 of the 1.5 million profit of book sales went back to his friend's families killed in combat and 1/3 went to his charity. [/b] But yes, he is repugnant and was only trying gain notoriety. [/quote]

It has been noted above that a judgment in federal court has proved that he lied to gain notoriety. And the bolded is yet another lie.

[i]Charity Begins at Home and The Money Trail

One final lie that has been told ad nauseam, is that Chris Kyle and his family donated all the proceeds from the sale of the book American Sniper to families of vets. The Kyle's say that 100% has gone to charities that support other vet families. This is an out and out lie, and a really despicable one that is repeated constantly by the corporate media. The truth is…the family has only given 2% of the profits to charity. The profits from the book belong to the Kyle family, and they should do with them what they please, but what they shouldn't do is tell people they are giving the money away in order to look good, while they in fact keep the money. The Kyle family has made over $6 million from the book, and that number will increase with further book sales and from an upcoming movie starring Bradley Cooper and directed by Clint Eastwood. So why isn't the corporate media up in arms over Chris Kyle and his wife lying repeatedly about the profits and proceeds from the book? Instead of asking Jesse Ventura why he doesn't give the money he is owed back to the Kyle family, why not ask the Kyle family why they keep lying about giving money to vets when they don't?

To further inform yourself, please read LINK: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/384176/justice-jesse-ventura-was-right-his-lawsuit-j-delgado[/i]

Source: http://mpmacting.com/blog/2014/7/19/truth-justice-and-the-curious-case-of-chris-kyle[/quote]

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