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[quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima]Right now, they are putting kids bodies in ice cream coolers because they ran our of room .Some people call Hamas Terrorists and some call them Heroes. Some call Israel a terrorist state and some call it a legitimate state. Children are children,[b] if you kill them intentionally [/b]and try to justify the reasons behind doing that, then everybody will call you a terrorist. Period.[/quote]

I agree with every you say except for the implication of what is in bold.  I am 100% certain that Israel is not killing kids intentionally.  That kids are dying is a tragedy.  But they are not being killed intentionally.

If the militants did not use the area near the shelters as launch sites, if the militants did not use the shelters to store weapons (a war crime, by the way), then shelters would not be hit.

I am not on the ground, so I do not know what is actually happening, but consider the possibility that Hamas militants are firing from the vicinity of shelters...say 20m - 30 m away.  Israel responds with artillery or mortars to the launch site.  Unfortunately, there is something called Circular Error of probability (CEP).  The CEP for the artillery is typically on the order of 10 m, according to [url]http://aviationweek.com/awin/new-israeli-artillery-concepts-technology-combine-0 [/url].  With a CEP of 10, that means that there is a 50% chance that the munition will land within 10 m of the target.  That is pretty good.

Now, if you launch 100 attacks, 1/2 will miss by more that 10 m, 1/4 or so by more than 20m. So of the 100 rounds, 25 will miss by more that 20 m, but in any direction.  A shelter is 20 m from the target....assume the shelter is 20x20 m, and 20m is the closest point.  In such a scenario, simulations I did indicate they would have about a 3.5% chance of hitting the shelter.  In this scenario, they were not targeting the shelter.  The problem is the children are caught in the crossfire, not that they are being intentionally targeted.

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I respectfully disagree. With the use of drones, F-16s and an arsenal of modern weapon technology, Israel has the ability to target single individuals and therefore to avoid civilian casualties. But rather than avoid them, Israel has repeatedly targeted civilians as part of its military operations. Israel itself said it, they used the the Dahiya Doctrine which is central to these operations and refers to Israel's indiscriminate attacks on civilians. After they did it it in Lebanon in 2006. Maj. Gen. Gadi Eizenkot said that this would be applied elsewhere:

[quote]What happened in the Dahiya quarter of Beirut in 2006 will happen in every village from which Israel is fired on. […] We will apply disproportionate force on it and cause great damage and destruction there. From our standpoint, these are not civilian villages, they are military bases.[/quote]

According to the National Lawyers Guild, Physicians for Human Rights-Israel, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, Israel directly targeted civilians or recklessly caused civilian deaths during Operation Cast Lead. Far from avoiding the deaths of civilians, Israel effectively considers them legitimate targets.

Even assuming that Israel's claims were plausible, humanitarian law obligates Israel to avoid civilian casualties that "would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated." [b]A belligerent force must verify whether civilian or civilian infrastructure qualifies as a military objective. In the case of doubt, "whether an object which is normally dedicated to civilian purposes, such as a place of worship, a house or other dwelling or a school, is being used to make an effective contribution to military action, it shall be presumed not to be so used."[/b]

In the over thee weeks of its military operation, Israel has demolished over 4000 homes, at least a dozen with families inside; destroyed five hospitals and six clinics; partially damaged sixty-four mosques and two churches; partially to completely destroyed eight government ministries; injured another 9,080 , including 2,744 children, 1,750 women and 343 elderly; and killed over 1700 Palestinians. At plain sight, these numbers indicate Israel's egregious violations of humanitarian law, ones that amount to war crimes. Israel can not continue to bomb areas knowing that children and women will be killed and said it wasn't intentional. Human beings should never be considered collateral damage, it is deliberate, it is cold and it is intentional![/quote]

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