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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]that isn't the fault of anyone on this board[/quote]
What isn't their fault, that they celebrate and revere people who owned people, stold other people's lznd and spread disease and acted like their very presence was doing THEM a favor?
Manifest Destiny Mother*******!!
Put that your license plate![/quote]

you do know most white people were not slave owners, right? 
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Exactly most... But it is well documented that the Mayflower 26 started slavery in the US.

Interesting to know if family was on the Mayflower but not exactly something to be proud and excited about.

Like, wow just found out my family was on the Mayflower and I am very sorry, then send some money to a scholarship or something.[/quote]

Why? I didn't do anything.

Should today's Germans be responsible for a Jewish scholarship fund?[/quote]

Today's Germans actually express great shame for the role they/their relatives played, and a level of sensitivity toward the victims and their descendants that we never saw here in the US. That is a huge part of why our country still hasn't truly moved on. You can't get past something until you acknowledge what really happened, what REALLY happened, and try to make things right. Slavery ended long ago, but as recently as a generation ago, we were STILL doing much of the same shit. We are STILL doing much of the same shit. You SHOULD be ashamed. [/quote]

We haven't moved on because you're holding people who are alive today responsible for something they have no control over.[/quote]

I think you mean "had" no control over, but interestingly enough your error points to the real issue. You DO have control over NOW. Acknowledge that your ancestors did awful awful things. Stop bragging about your connection to them, and denying the awful things they did. Stop blaming the people who remind you. Do your best to remember and to keep history from repeating itself. We are still denying people their basic human rights. We are still discriminating. The descendants of those people are still hurting. Its ancient history to you, and something you're blissfully unaware of on a daily basis. I am confronted with the burden of my skin color every time I look in the mirror. The emotional scars on my mother and grandparents are not easily ignored, and it enrages me if I think about it too hard.[/quote]

When they stop with the knock-out game...[/quote]

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